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Old 07-06-2003, 03:31 PM   #15
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Having restored a few classic cars, I have to say $1000 is nothing to spend on restoring a vehicle, especially if that $1000 completely replaces the only part of your running gear that breaks down over time. Dang, that's a steal! Seems like every part of the car project ended up costing $1000 by the time it was done (like, lets do the front end - $1000, lets do the rear end - $1000, lets do the engine - $4000 - not exactly, but it seemed like it all added up, that's how I spent $15000 on a 68 mustang over five years).

So, what exactly is involved in replacing the axel? Like if I ordered a new axel, complete with brakes? Is it just a matter of unbolting the old and bolting on the new? There must be something tricky about it. Come on now, tell the truth...
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Stef, axle replacement is pretty easy, if you have help. I did both of mine by myself, so it was a little harder. Hardest part is getting the old axles out from under the coach, and the new ones back under.

I purchased bare axles without brakes and hubs. Being an experienced mechanic, it was easy for me to transfer hubs and brake plates over to the new axles. Having bare axles also made it easier to move them around. The axles attach with 4 bolts, then the electric brake wires, that's all there is to it.
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Stephanie.

That's the tricky part. You must disconnect 4 wires (two for each backing plate), disconnect the two shocks, remove the four bolts, and lookout, the axle falls on the ground.

Reversing the process completes the installation.

Don't even need a jack, if it's a tandem or tri-axle.

Can't get the axles on backwards or upside down, can't mess up the wiring, as there is no polarity for the magnets, can't misalign the new axle, (it fits just one way).

There is the trick, Stephanie. So simple, it becomes nerve wracking.

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Cool. I know that's probably on my to-do list for the future. A project I can actually look forward to :-)
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Since this is also on my to do list I have to ask how did you replace two axles for $1000???
I thought they were $800 "each" plus shipping ??

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Stephanie.

That's the tricky part. You must disconnect 4 wires (two for each backing plate), disconnect the two shocks, remove the four bolts, and lookout, the axle falls on the ground.

Reversing the process completes the installation.

Don't even need a jack, if it's a tandem or tri-axle.

Can't get the axles on backwards or upside down, can't mess up the wiring, as there is no polarity for the magnets, can't misalign the new axle, (it fits just one way).

There is the trick, Stephanie. So simple, it becomes nerve wracking.

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Andy forgot to include replacing or reattaching the shocks. You may need to have a welder either attach the loose shock arms or reposition the new ones. Not trying to be a spoiler but Andy and I know that hooking the shocks back up properly can be problematic. Not a bad job if you have a mig welder at your disposal. Just my 2 cents.

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$800 for "loaded" axles, $500 ea. for "bare". Bare does not have brake plates or hubs and bearings. I used the old ones. Shipping? I live in Ohio, so I drove to the Henschen factory and picked them up myself. Henschen is right next to Airstream's factory, so of course, I did the factory tour.

The PO gave me a new set of shocks he purchased, he never got around to replacing them, so I had no expense there. My shocks went on perfect, no welding needed.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to do a tear down to find out the condition of the internal stuff before ordering. I suspect after 32 years I will have to go all the way. The breaks are working OK and the bearings were repacked last year but due to lack of time I had a shop do the repacking so I really have no first hand knowledge of the condition and when I do it I want to do it just once and do it right.
You have any problem with the shocks going back on as Chas had ???

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Axles priced at $500.00 for a stripped model and $800.00, for a complete model are the biggest bargin you have for an Airstream.

Pound for pound, they are cheap.

The KT lock, used from 1970 to 1977 costs $546.00 and weighs a little more than 1 pound.

Refrigerators run $7.00 per pound, and up.

Air Conditioners run $8.00 per pound, and up.

Some windows run $50.00 per pound, and up.

A stripped 3000 pound rated axle runs a little more than $3.00 per pound.



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Do the loaded axles come with Timken or Romanian bearings???

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Bearing manufacturers, all must comply with certain standards.

Henschen uses Timken, Koyo as well as bearings distributed by TRP, which has them made in China and Romania.

Henschen quality control program assures the very best of performance.

Bearings fail, like anything else.

I had a wheel bearing failure in a 2002 Buick Park Ave Ultra, in less than 3000 miles.
I will not name the manufacturer, but it was a United States company.

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"I had a wheel bearing failure in a 2002 Buick Park Ave Ultra, in less than 3000 miles."

andy,

some how i couldn't see you in a pickup truck! just kidding!


what do you use for a tow vehicle?

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Andy IS the tow vehicle, pulling his suitcase to catch that plane to Hawaii

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My trailer towing days are over.

I towed a 31 foot Airstream, through 47 of our continental states, for a period of 4 years.

It was fun back then when truckers liked you. Now they hate you.

qqq is right. Anything that I can push (grocery cart) or tow (luggage) is my style. I especially light to pull that luggage at the airport, so that I can visit Hawaii again, and again, like I will do this November, for 10 days.

5 hours from Corona barely would get me out of the state.
5 hours on a Jet, gets me to paradise, and I can have a drink or two on the way.

Truthfully, I will miss the Forum when in Hawaii, and not much more.

I know I can access the net from my room, but then, that's not in my my list of things to do when there. I can do that at home, I can't do Hawaii at home.

Maybe, just a "hello" from there, will be adequate.

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