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Old 02-27-2005, 09:25 AM   #15
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I've drug the tail end of my trailer several times comming into or out of parking lots and I've even scraped the tonge jack ? sounds good to me... however my pockets are not that deeeeep... keep those posts comming MR. ANDY ...
From the looks of your picture, your Argosy is riding very low. Unless that's an optical illusion, you might check your axle, make sure it is not worn out. If you need a new axle, then you might order one with more torsion arm down angle, that way you will gain 1-2in of ground clearance.
You're fortunate, in that you only need to buy one axle. Us big trailer folks always need to buy two of them.
Take a look under the trailer, behind the wheels. You will see torsion arms facing to the rear of the trailer, right behind each wheel. These torsion arms should point downwards at a slight angle.(10-15 degrees) If they're in line with the frame of the trailer, or even pointing up slightly, then you likely have a bad axle, which needs replacement. Check this with a loaded trailer.
You can search this forum, there is a wealth of information on axles.
You should not be scraping your frame or tongue jack unless the departure angle is really extreme.
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:09 AM   #16
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in addition to uwe's post here are a couple of tricks i use to cut down on the driveway scrapes.

first, i use a deeper drop hitch bar without the weight bars when moving the trailer out to the street. then i rehitch when out in the street with my "over the road" draw bar, leveling bars and sway control.

second, after i am all hitched up and ready to roll i load the trailer out in front of the house. beer, water, food etc. go in after i'm out in the street.

it is amazing how much ground clearance i gain by just doing these two steps. i have it so i don't even scrape when exiting my driveway.

is it me or were pre 1970 airstreams built with much more ground clearance than later models? that pic andy posted reminds me of the trailers pictured in the burkhart/hunt book!

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Old 02-27-2005, 10:24 AM   #17
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Depends on how north you go

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There seem to be more 4WD's down here in the South, than up North.
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It is rare to find 2 wheel drive Pickups and SUVs here in Minnesota. You practically have to order them from the factory if you want them. Pickups, especially, are difficult to drive on snowy roads because of the light rear ends. On the other hand I went with my daughter and son-in-law to look at SUVs in Orlando, FL last December and there were no 4WDs on the lots. There you had to order them.

I've done exhaustive snow studies for designing retail entrances and most of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and points south surprisingly don't get that much snow or have it on the streets long enough to justify needing 4WD in my mind. Once it snows here in Minnesota I need it just to get up my 12% sloped driveway because snow stays the winter. Strangely though, we got a bye until this month this year with hardly any snow.
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:16 PM   #18
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Check your axle. It's done.

Mounting rollers at the bumper is not recommended.

First of all, Airstream puts skid plates there.

Secondly and most importantly, if you use the rollers and then lift the trailer with them, you will cave in the rear quarter panels, gauaranteed.

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Old 02-27-2005, 05:50 PM   #19
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Check your axle. It's done.
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I agree. I replaced mine because it was bad, and it did not sit as low as yours. Think of it as a early spring project, you can still have it ready to go before camping season begins.
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:36 AM   #20
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Paula.

I think a Ford 250 tow vehicle for your trailer, is considerable overkill.

You don't have the Queen Mary, you have a 22 foot trailer.

I would suggest you stay with a half ton Chev or Ford, equip it properly, and enjoy the travels.

A four wheel drive is certainly a poor choice for your situation.

You asked.

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I'm planning on traveling 10-15 times a year business and pleasure - my tow vehicle will be pretty much a dedicated vehicle. (I'm keeping a paid for 1999 Lexus - which is ALL show and NO Tow! )

I'd rather go a little overboard than be underpowered, but I was also looking at Expeditions and Suburbans.... Decisions, Decisions, decisions. I know to look out for the piston slap on the Suburbans and the week brakes on the Fords - I guess I'm just getting beklempt.

Lets see, eenie, meanie, miney mo!

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Old 02-28-2005, 09:39 AM   #21
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after i am all hitched up and ready to roll i load the trailer out in front of the house. beer, water, food etc. go in after i'm out in the street.

it is amazing how much ground clearance i gain by just doing these two steps. i have it so i don't even scrape when exiting my driveway.
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OK John, You're a man I wanna meet on my travels (Burp!)

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Old 02-28-2005, 09:55 AM   #22
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Ford builds a nice F250 powerstroke diesel in a 2WD extracab shortbed configuration, and used ones are abundent in this format.(Mass market are mostly 4WD,crewcabs). 4WD isn't really needed, unless you plan on offroad trips without the trailer. I believe GM also builds as well as Dodge, similar configurations as well, all with their own issues.One thing to remember is, that the added cost for a diesel power plant, is not for folks that resale their trucks every few years, but for folks that plan on using them the long duration.Properly maintained, any of these trucks can give you a low cost per mile, and thats really what were all looking for right?
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:00 PM   #23
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um about 54 to be exact!

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OK John, You're a man I wanna meet on my travels (Burp!)

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paula,

how much beer? 54 fit with a little room left for snacks! as you can see the weight savings can be substantial!

go ahead and get a 4wd truck, you won't regret it. the added benefit is the transfer case. you can use 4wd LOW to reduce the gear ratio for backing the trailer up a steep incline.

i hope to run into you too!

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4x4 can be a plus

As a general rule, I don't like/want/need 4x4 for a variety of reasons. However if shopping for a used vehicle I would not rule it out. A couple of years ago I dragged a fair sized 5'ver(12k# GVW) out to Phoenix for a friend of mine....I used the the 4x4 twice...both times to get some extra oomph to back the beast into a tight spot on an uphill over a hump. It probably would have made it with out but it was nice that it was there. I have owned 4x4's in the past and probably will own one again someday. But I feel in my current situation the added maintenance, extra parts to break, etc out weigh the advantages. JMHO

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that is a very reasonable point of view given your location.

some mornings i need 4wd just to get out of the driveway, not to mention the daily drive of 75 to 100 miles to work.

bottom line get the tow vehicle that meets your needs the best.

i drove 2wd trucks for years in the snow, gotta have good snow tires and a lotta weight in the back. chains don't hurt either since studded tires have been outlawed here for over 30 years.

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Greetings!
We have a 97 F-150 4x4, 4.6L that pulls our 23' Safari really good on flat ground, or down hill. he he
We have to put it in 4 wheel drive to get out of the driveway, or start out on a hill, plus gear down to make it up a hill, whether we are pulling anything or not. Our next truck will be a F-250 4x4 for sure.

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I'm a firm believer in if you can afford it, go with the 4x4. I changed from 2wd trucks to 4wd trucks back in the eighties after getting tired of not being able to get my boat out of the water without having to be towed up the ramp. There have been several occasions while traveling out west during the winter that I have had to use it to start moving again after coming to a stop while climbing some of the steeper mountain passes. I've been caught by thunderstorms while boondocking ending up looking like a scene from one of the old "Around the World" Caravan videos. Maintenance wise I have never had any problems out of the 4x4 system. Just a little more oil and differential fluids to be changed. I've got 103,000 miles on my '03 4x4 with nothing being done other than the recommended service. When it comes time to sell, the 4x4 will bring more money as well.
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