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Old 01-04-2011, 09:28 AM   #29
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Would that not be a question for your local airstream dealer?
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:49 AM   #30
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...As a side question, if Airstream is building such a high quality trailer, why do their new trailers all not have disc brakes and led lights?

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hi dan

they are using led clearance lights now and some led area lighting.

it's not a SIMPLE switchover (for them) and they aren't a high volume producer.

also, older style fixtures are NOT really designed for led bulbs, even as diy'rs might think so.

a/s did offer hydraulic disc brakes, first in the 70s and then in again from 2005-10...

in late 04 this was listed as an "option" for classics,

mid year (jan/05) they made disc brakes standard on the classics and bumped all prices accordingly.

classic sales/production slowed a BUNCH and the models available were trimmed from 8 to 3 or so.

disc brakes were d/cd but the original price bump remained

while they are no longer offered on the factory production line, disc brakes are STILL available...

the factory service center will install them as an upgrade and qualified dealer/service shops will too.

while many folks with the 05-08 bits had actuator failures (search using the term actibrake) mine have been trouble free...

clearly there are advantages to discs when compared to drums.

the maintenance issues are different.

there are dozens of threads here on 1. installation, 2. maintenance, 3. trouble shooting and so on...

for many folks the COST issue goes beyond just the disc brake bits...

since many may have to buy NEW wheels as well.

disc brakes on a vintage stream are a great upgrade,

several renovators do offer this and have posted threads on this customization.
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good to see the post from COLIN,

it's great to read that a reliable honest vendor/renovation shop is supplying axles and without drama.

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Old 01-04-2011, 02:53 PM   #31
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Dan,

I did consider converting to disc brakes. The cost, however, was prohibitive for six wheels. Also, with my trailer loaded on the light side (if a 34' can ever be light ) I think the six drums give me plenty of stopping power. If the trailer were three feet shorter (31'er) with two axles, I most likely would have made the change.

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Old 01-04-2011, 04:04 PM   #32
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Here's an idea that probably is impossible, but how about mounting disks on the front and back axles and leaving the drums on the middle axle. Many cars, including my '07 Taurus have a combination disk and drum set-up. (No wonder the Camry outsold the late model Taurus')

In fact, it might work super with the Chevy/GMC built-in brake controller that needs the brake magnet resistance to work properly.Just an idea.

My '97 30' Limited has the drum brakes which seem adequate as we drove thousands of mountain miles this fall. Wish we had an exhaust brake which would have been better for the situation.

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Old 01-04-2011, 04:09 PM   #33
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You might try using a brake proportioning valve with that setup, but I would just get disc for all 3 axles and be done with it and not try and mix the brakes around....
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:17 PM   #34
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good to see the post from COLIN,

it's great to read that a reliable honest vendor/renovation shop is supplying axles and without drama.

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And as well, it's quite convenient for the Airstreamers that live in the North East.

Colin's only a pleasant three-hour drive from me here in Ottawa, six hours from Toronto, or a mere hour and a half from Montréal.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:05 PM   #35
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Nice to know there are more localized vendors. Just wish I could read an axle thread on here without individuals making cheap shots.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:37 AM   #36
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Part of the cost of switching to disc brakes is the introduction of hydraulics to the system. The drum setup is purely electric. For me it was an all or nothing decision. The idea of mixing hydraulic disc breaks, electric drum breaks (or converting them to hydraulic as well), and adding in a proportioning system makes for more complexity than I want to handle. From my experience, the more complicated the system, the more opportunity for component/system failure. Six big electric drums provide sufficient stopping force for my needs, as well as simplicity/reliability.

With that said, I will restate my comment form an earlier post in this thread. If I were loaded closer to the max weight of my trailer, still pulling with my 2009 F150, and decided to tow up into high country like the Colorado Rockies, then I would much more likely have made the conversion to discs.

It's all about the safety margin of your equipment. Just because something has a stated limit, that doesn't mean you are ALWAYS safe operating right at it. You never know when an event will push you over. I also don't like standing right on the edge of a cliff. I can see just fine from several feet back.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:21 AM   #37
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Thanks so much for the axle thread, Aviator. Your descriptions and pictures give me confidence that I will use if (when) I need new ones for my '98.

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Old 01-05-2011, 07:08 PM   #38
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Thanks, Pat. Had it not been for this Forum and all of the information found here, I never would have been willing to tackle lifting the trailer and changing the axles. For that matter, I think I would still have water leaks and a great deal of frustration by this point, or an even emptier wallet!
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Old 05-03-2014, 01:22 PM   #39
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I want to thank you for doing this thread as it's a good primer for me as I prepare to do a triple axle swap in my 34' Airstream!


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Thank you so much for the information. My husband and I just picked up our tandem axles for our 1980 31' International (Thanks to Andy and his team at Inland RV for their help!). "Betty" sat for about 10 years in a storage unit due to the illness of her previous owners. I'll be sure to document in photos our progress. Borrowing Dad's impact wrench and will try to bribe some of our sibs to help (beer and pizza usually do it!). Thanks to all of you for your contributions!
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:56 PM   #41
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Steve and Rhino33,

You are most welcome. I am glad it was,helpful. Just remember when you start on the bolts....lefty loosie. My wife is still teasing me about the several hours I spent tightening one axle.......
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:22 PM   #42
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Must be the season for axle replacement.

I got mine from Inland RV and drop shipped to Redneck here in Springfield, MO.

The reason I got them from Inland RV was I ordered a package and I didn't worry about measurements and what size brakes, etc. I told Inland what we have, sent them several photos and now I've got two nice new axles sitting on the trailer.

The only hitch up was my part, I thought, in conversations with Andy that I ordered 'never lube' hubs or whatever. A phone call to Inland, and Andy's crew got right back to me after they pulled the paper work,,,,, The guys at Redneck asked if I was sure because even if they say life time guarantee, it lonly lasts five years.

I am reading everything I can on axle replacement on our 1978 31' Sovereign.

I'll keep you posted.

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