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Old 11-05-2008, 12:17 PM   #1
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New Axles and Winter Storage

Hello all, it's that time of the year here in the Northeast. Time to winterize the trailer. We installed new dexter axles this summer. Dexter recommends that for periods of long storage, the weight be removed from the axles. So, I ask you, my fellow Airsteamers, does anybody out there set their trailer on jack stands for the winter? It would seem like a good thing to do for the tires as well as the axles. What do you all think? Thanks, George.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:25 PM   #2
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Hello all, it's that time of the year here in the Northeast. Time to winterize the trailer. We installed new dexter axles this summer. Dexter recommends that for periods of long storage, the weight be removed from the axles. So, I ask you, my fellow Airsteamers, does anybody out there set their trailer on jack stands for the winter? It would seem like a good thing to do for the tires as well as the axles. What do you all think? Thanks, George.
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Did Dexter define "long storage"? When do you plan on being able to use the trailer?

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Old 11-05-2008, 12:27 PM   #3
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Yes on the Jackstands.
I found an old pair at a flea market for $5.00 and they work fine. I place them under the main frame of the trailer closer to the rear axle. I keep the tires about 1/2" off the ground.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:35 PM   #4
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Did Dexter define "long storage"? When do you plan on being able to use the trailer?

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I believe Dexter defines "long term" as more than 3 months. Next time out will be April 09.
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Yes on the Jackstands.
I found an old pair at a flea market for $5.00 and they work fine. I place them under the main frame of the trailer closer to the rear axle. I keep the tires about 1/2" off the ground.
Do you use one pair, or two pairs of jackstands? George.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:48 PM   #6
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Axle Exercise?

What is considered enough "exercise" for the axles? We had our AS on a lot for 3 months at Livingston and then pulled her home in August about 80 miles where she will sit. Our next outing is not until Thanksgiving to Garner State Park. Is that enough or should I put up on jacks in between trips?
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What is considered enough "exercise" for the axles? We had our AS on a lot for 3 months at Livingston and then pulled her home in August about 80 miles where she will sit. Our next outing is not until Thanksgiving to Garner State Park. Is that enough or should I put up on jacks in between trips?
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James,

Inland Andy answered that question in another thread and I believe the answer was less than 1,000 miles per year. Someone with better search abilities than me will need to find that thread.

2air' where are you with your search expertise?

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I used just one pair of stands throughout the entire trailer refurbishment. I placed them just behind the rear axle. The trailer was very steady.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:13 PM   #9
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I put mine on 4 stands and the front jack. Just up high enough the wheels turn. It really isn't that expensive and takes just a couple minuets to put on and take off. I use a 12 ton hydraulic jack I bought for $23. As someone else said in another thread (sorry I can't give credit where credit is due), "it may not do any good, but it sure can't hurt".
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:37 PM   #10
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... So, I ask you, my fellow Airsteamers, does anybody out there set their trailer on jack stands for the winter? It would seem like a good thing to do for the tires as well as the axles. What do you all think? Thanks, George.
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Another thing to remember when comparing "axles" in general .....an open car, utility, horse, or enclosed trailer is usually stored in an unloaded condition, while a travel trailer, of any manufacture, is usually in storage at near it's max allowable weight. The extra compression imposed on a loaded axle while in storage (either spring or torsion) HAS to take a toll on the longevity of the elastic support.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:49 PM   #11
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I have my race car trailer and she sits at 11500 lbs. I have never lifted it, and would cringe trying. My car my tools my golfcart ect. I dont know if it is correct, but I dont know of anyone who does. I couldnt imagine lifting my buddys 40' 5th wheel. He has a lift ect in his, and has been on the ground since 1998 when he bought it new.

None of us have axles issues. I think it is an isolated circumstance.
But they can fail...

Let me tell ya these trailers are flying up the road trying to get to the track. Maintenance is very important. I xcan say tires are replaced about every 3 years . They just get worn out.
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87 that is one heck of a good looking trailer. Nice ideas when it comes to jacking plate and tire mount. really a clean lookin unit
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Hello all, it's that time of the year here in the Northeast. Time to winterize the trailer. We installed new dexter axles this summer. Dexter recommends that for periods of long storage, the weight be removed from the axles. So, I ask you, my fellow Airsteamers, does anybody out there set their trailer on jack stands for the winter? It would seem like a good thing to do for the tires as well as the axles. What do you all think? Thanks, George.
For longevity, all torsion axles, regardless of brand, should have most of the weight removed when in storage, for an extended period.

Unfortunately, the "extended period" time seems to vary, depending on climates, which vary within itself.

Certainly, reducing the load on the axles, won't hurt a thing.

But, it could help, and should help.

Again, each owner to his own. If you do not reduce the weight, only time will really answer the question, in your case. If you don't reduce the weight, and the rubber rods take a set, then it will be to late to say, "I should have reduced the weight."

Historically, removing the weight, pays dividends.

That information comes from people that deal with axles everyday, which eliminates personal opinions.

The choice is yours, of course.

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Hi, Andy. In your opinion or from the manufacturer of these axles, would it possibly be worse to leave a load on the axles in warm weather or freezeing weather? I would think that in areas that freeze would be worse on the axles [rubber rods] than like Southern California area.
My trailer only gets out a few times a year so far, but when it does get out, it goes for, usually 1,000 miles or more per trip. In my parking situation, it would be very difficult to jack up, put on stands, and wait for the next earthquake to knock it off the stands; So my trailer will just have to sit on the ground. I think in the long run, new axles would be a lot cheaper than right side sheet metal.
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