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Old 06-25-2010, 12:46 AM   #15
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I'll have an invoice in my hand tomorrow so will know more then. Two ways to go, usually you order the axels, brakes and hubs as a set so all is new and matches your trailer. In my case I'm getting them bare, just the axles and cost should be about $575 each plus shipping and then install. It's a good idea to replace the shocks at the same time. Some argue they aren't necessary but if that is the case then why did Airstream put them in. Inland RV has axles priced on their web site.
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I just replaced mine.

I ordered the complete axles with shocks and balancers from Andy . Fit perfectly and was a breeze except for the heavy lifting ( which I paid a 25 year old guy to do for me) total was about $2000 with shipping and well worth it since they fit so perfectly. The only problem was FedEx pulling up to my door with a 45 foot tractor trailer and no way of getting them on the ground saftly, and only a half hour notice of them coming to deliver. I was able to locate a couple of big strong neighbors that were home at the time to help unload them. They weigh about 230 lbs. each with the drums and brakes. I am very pleased with the final results.
If I had it to do over I would save the $85 home delivery fee and go to the FedEx depot and pick them up myself.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:25 PM   #17
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My 2 Dexter complete axles were $690.50. I had to pick them up.
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:32 PM   #18
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My 2 Dexter complete axles were $690.50. I had to pick them up.
What size brakes did you get?

Ten or twelve inch.

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Old 06-25-2010, 03:53 PM   #19
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My 2 Dexter complete axles were $690.50. I had to pick them up.
That is $690 for both, or each? I have been on the phone with Dexter 4 times, and with Airstream twice. No one can advise me at these places what Dexter axle I would need for a 73 Sovereign 31'..with serial in-hand. I am just trying to shop, get a $ amount and compare what each axle will cost me in terms of labor. I am really underwhelmed by Dexter and Airstream, at this point. By the way, I am a newbie, and I have no idea if this is considered a hi-jack...sorry if it is.
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That's for both.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:48 PM   #21
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What size brakes did you get?

Ten or twelve inch.

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Andy,

I and many others have been down this road. I think you know very well what size the brakes are.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:35 PM   #22
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Andy,

I and many others have been down this road. I think you know very well what size the brakes are.
I know what size they are, but others may not.

But, for the record, the brakes were downsized from 12 inch to 10 inch.

Since the drums are smaller, the heat build up from braking is much greater, which leads to warped drums and/or glazed linings.

Airstream would not be putting 12 inch brakes on trailers, if they felt it didn't provide a greater safety margin.

Safety is the major concern.

Dexter engineers in our office, said "they do that because that's what they decided not to do". When asked about the safety margin compromise by down grading the brakes, their answer was, "TO EACH HIS OWN".

So I guess that's where it's at, to each his own.

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Andy -- I've asked this before and gotten no response. My '06 Safari (build date: August 2005) has Dexter axles. And those axles were installed by Jackson Center. What diameter brakes do I have?
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Andy -- I've asked this before and gotten no response. My '06 Safari (build date: August 2005) has Dexter axles. And those axles were installed by Jackson Center. What diameter brakes do I have?
Bob.

I do have any data of what the later models Airstream specs may be.

But, if you look at the plate that holds the backing plate assembly to the axle, you can easily identify what size brakes your Airstream has.

If that plate is "square" it has 4 bolts in it that hold the backing plate. That's the proper plate for 10 inch brakes.

If that plate is round, and has 5 bolts in it, that then specs 12 inch brakes.

No need to take anything apart, just put your head underneath the trailer, and look at that plate.

Hope this helps.

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Well even though Henschen uses 12", their brake shoes are 2" wide vs. 2.5 " wide on the Dexters. The surface area is actually more on the Dexters. If cost were not a factor and Airstream were after the best braking performance, then they would put disc brakes on everything. In 1967 the year my trailer was built, tow vehicles did not have the braking power of today's modern tow vehicles. i.e anti-lock disc brakes are standard on most, which is how my TV is equipped. Brake controllers are also much improved from yesteryear. So I evaluated the pros and cons of the various axles available and chose Dexter. Cost, performance, availability, maintenance, installation and feedback from many , many, many satisfied customers. So, I upgraded the weight capacity from 2600 lb to 3000 lb also changed from a 22.5 down angle to a 32 down angle. The brakes on my axles are rated to 3500# so I figure the brakes are good for stopping a 7000# trailer. My trailer dry weight is 3830 lbs., this coupled with the fact that my tow vehicle stops much better than those of yesteryear makes me feel that I am not compromising ours or anyone's safety while towing. DejaVu
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brakes.

I believe Dexters 10 inch brakes are 10 X 2 1/4 inch.

Henschen does not dictate the size of a customers brakes. The customer does, be it an OEM or a customer.

Henschen will build an axle with a rating as low as 2000 pounds, and install 12 inch brakes, if requested.

On the other hand, Dexter refuses to install 12 inch brakes on any rating below 3500 pounds.

Two of their engineers, confirmed that when they were in our offices a few short weeks ago.

The theory behind what size brakes a trailer should use, is not just for the trailers weight.

The proper brake rating, should also include the weight of the tow vehicle, to maximize "safety".

Not often, but tow vehicle brakes do fail. Having 10 inch brakes, will hardly do even a "fair" job, stopping a loaded trailer "and" the tow vehicle. Ten inch brakes, in "perfect condition" are rated at 3500 pounds each. For a tandem, then thats 7000 pounds, maximum. For 12 inch brakes, that rating jumps to over 10,000 pounds. Quite a difference between the two sizes.

For first hand proof of that, those owners with 10 inch trailer brakes, can apply just the trailer brakes, on their next trip, and see how they marginally perform, stopping the entire rig.

Things happen, that we don't anticipate or bargain for. Like the boy scouts say, "be prepared" is the one thing we all can do.

Maximizing "safety" is always the bottom line.

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I believe Dexters 10 inch brakes are 10 X 2 1/4 inch.

Henschen does not dictate the size of a customers brakes. The customer does, be it an OEM or a customer.

Henschen will build an axle with a rating as low as 2000 pounds, and install 12 inch brakes, if requested.

On the other hand, Dexter refuses to install 12 inch brakes on any rating below 3500 pounds.

Two of their engineers, confirmed that when they were in our offices a few short weeks ago.

The theory behind what size brakes a trailer should use, is not just for the trailers weight.

The proper brake rating, should also include the weight of the tow vehicle, to maximize "safety".

Not often, but tow vehicle brakes do fail. Having 10 inch brakes, will hardly do even a "fair" job, stopping a loaded trailer "and" the tow vehicle. Ten inch brakes, in "perfect condition" are rated at 3500 pounds each. For a tandem, then thats 7000 pounds, maximum. For 12 inch brakes, that rating jumps to over 10,000 pounds. Quite a difference between the two sizes.

For first hand proof of that, those owners with 10 inch trailer brakes, can apply just the trailer brakes, on their next trip, and see how they marginally perform, stopping the entire rig.

Things happen, that we don't anticipate or bargain for. Like the boy scouts say, "be prepared" is the one thing we all can do.

Maximizing "safety" is always the bottom line.

Andy
I'm not scared and don't appreciate scare tactics. I feel really good about my decision to go with Dexter and of course the savings of $1300.00+ dollars didn't hurt. My decision on DEXTER was only partly due to monetary reasons. I'm sure you only have everybody's best interest and safety in mind and money has nothing to do with it. If we all were to "maximize' safety then we should all have disc brakes. Problem is most of us have to live with our own budget and do the best we can with what we can afford.
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