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Old 02-05-2007, 06:56 PM   #1
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Jacking up a new Airstream..

I have a 05 Safari 30, and the manual is a little vague on the Jacking procedure. They want you to jack it up by the "jack" sticker under the rear most tire. I look at mine and it appears the Jack sticker is not centered on the frame rail, so I really do not want to jack there. Actually with the bannana wrap and underbelly panel it is hard to tell where the frame is.

I know you can pull it up on a ramp and pull the other tire on the same side off, but if I want to say take all of the tires off for rotation or replacement can you do that. Surely there is a way to remove the wheels without doing it one at a time?

Can you jack it at the axle tube??
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:14 PM   #2
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There shoud be an aluminum square riveted to the frame rail in board from the sticker.This is the main frame rail.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:20 PM   #3
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I have a 05 Safari 30, and the manual is a little vague on the Jacking procedure. They want you to jack it up by the "jack" sticker under the rear most tire. I look at mine and it appears the Jack sticker is not centered on the frame rail, so I really do not want to jack there. Actually with the bannana wrap and underbelly panel it is hard to tell where the frame is.

I know you can pull it up on a ramp and pull the other tire on the same side off, but if I want to say take all of the tires off for rotation or replacement can you do that. Surely there is a way to remove the wheels without doing it one at a time?

Can you jack it at the axle tube??
NEVER - and I mean NEVER - jack it on the axle tube. Serious damage to the axle can occur.

You can jack between the wheels on the axle mount bracket - this will get two tires on one side up. Find the plate on the frame mentioned above for the official jack point.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:23 PM   #4
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Never put a jack on the axle! If you look just behind the axle, you'll see an open section of the frame rail. It's OK to jack here, but the preferred spot is the one that's marked. Look for the aluminum square that's riveted to the underside (it should be obvious by the sticker pointing to it's location.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:24 PM   #5
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If you do a search of jacking or jack points you should be able to find lots of prior posts on this subject.

The problem with the factory installed jack point plates on my 30' trailer is that they are so far to the rear of the trailer to make them useless.

The factory service guys told me I could place a jack anywhere on the length of frame, making sure I didn't have the jack head too far in or out on the frame rail so as to bend the lip on the frame, but I think the general concensus here is that the best place is the axle mounting plate (not the axle itself).

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I have a 05 Safari 30, and the manual is a little vague on the Jacking procedure. They want you to jack it up by the "jack" sticker under the rear most tire. I look at mine and it appears the Jack sticker is not centered on the frame rail, so I really do not want to jack there. Actually with the bannana wrap and underbelly panel it is hard to tell where the frame is.
The labeled jack point is for a stabilizer only -- though I don't know why Airstream bothers labeling since all newer Airstream have B.A.L. stabilizers. Most of the stickers blow off anyway... See http://www.airforums.com/forum...ice-27653.html The exposed heavy frame just fore and aft of the axles is the only place you can jack up the trailer. The A-frame jack up front isn't real strong to lateral forces -- I'd prefer to jack up the trailer when hitched to my truck with the parking brake engaged.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:59 PM   #7
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Yeah, mine only has stickers...

I do not have pop riveted plates in the "to jack" area. I only have stickers that say Jack. Does that mean stabilizers or floor jack? My BAL stabilizer is back towards the stern about 4 more feet.

Sounds like the area to jack er up is the plate or section of the frame where the axles pivot is bolted to. I like that area too because I can put floor jacs there.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #8
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That mounting plate is pretty thin and fairly deep. You can use a bottle jack on it but be very careful. It can easily bend sidways if it is slightly off center and there is any movement due to the trailer moving or the ground under the jack giving way a little bit. I would not recommend jacking there. I have bent one in my past.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:30 PM   #9
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Never put a jack on the axle! If you look just behind the axle, you'll see an open section of the frame rail. It's OK to jack here, but the preferred spot is the one that's marked. Look for the aluminum square that's riveted to the underside (it should be obvious by the sticker pointing to it's location.
Hi, my Safari has the aluminum plates, small square, rivited to the underside as Lew said, but I had to crawl under the trailer to actually see them. They are quite a ways inward from the arrow stickers. First couple of times I looked under my trailer I could not see them either. Get on your back and slide under your trailer; You will see [find] them.
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Never put a jack on the axle! If you look just behind the axle, you'll see an open section of the frame rail. It's OK to jack here, but the preferred spot is the one that's marked. Look for the aluminum square that's riveted to the underside (it should be obvious by the sticker pointing to it's location.
Ok, I will bite. What if the local tire shop jacked up the trailer via the axle? What damage would that cause on a single axle trailer? If any? Yes. this happened to me...
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Ok, I will bite. What if the local tire shop jacked up the trailer via the axle? What damage would that cause on a single axle trailer? If any? Yes. this happened to me...
You can bend the axle easly! The first time I looked under my '06 CCD, I noticed that there was a slight rise directly in the middle of the axle, like some idiot (have no idea who ) put a jack under the center of the axle to jack it up. Not only would this bend the axle (it did!!!!) but it is not a stable jacking point with a center point lift source and the tongue jack. You just can't life both tires off the ground without a 3rd stabilizing point, unlike jacking a car from under the differential...........................

Some people have their heads so far up their a*$ that they are dangerous!!!!!!!!
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The first time I looked under my '06 CCD, I noticed that there was a slight rise directly in the middle of the axle, like some idiot ... put a jack under the center of the axle to jack it up. Not only would this bend the axle (it did!!!!) but it is not a stable jacking point with a center point lift source and the tongue jack.
Lew, I once thought a PO had pulled my two axle Argosy down a dirt road with a high crown and bent both axles in the middle. I've since found out that this bend is manufactured into the axles.

That being said, the axle tubing will not bear the weight of jacking the trailer. I always have a single wheel ramp in the back of my truck while traveling -- works great. But don't think it'd help if I ran over a road hazard that flattened two tires on the same side. I have a bottle jack in the truck but had better practice that before I talk smart...
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Ok,

I called Henchen. They were very nice folks. The reason they do not want you to jack the trailer up via the axle tube is it may bend it. This would change the camber and cause it to be out of alignment.
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I carry a couple of plastic ramps with me, too. It's the fastest, safest way to change a tire without unhooking the TV.

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