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Old 01-05-2003, 07:27 PM   #1
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Installing new shocks

After three days and twice as many applications of catalysed penetrating oil, I finally gave up and used an acetylene torch to heat up the nuts (which are welded to the frame and axle) to break the bolts free.

Should you happen to be replacing shocks ($33.00 each, and overpriced at $10 for the set of four) do yourself or the next owner a favor and apply anti- sieze tread compound to the treads when you install the new bolts (or nuts on the newer models).

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Old 01-27-2003, 05:55 PM   #2
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Same thing

I'm heading into the same thing. Have tried to break the bolt and nuts loose on several attempts, but with no luck. Have new shocks in the garage, but was "waiting" until spring when I replace the tires. Next attempt will be the serious one with the torch and impact gun. It's those inside nuts that are the killer. And I will use some antiseize on them the next time around.
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Old 01-27-2003, 06:52 PM   #3
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I'm wondering - is it possible to use a nut cracker?

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Old 01-27-2003, 07:12 PM   #4
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The units in question will most likely pre-date those intalled with regular nuts. Mine ('85) has one nut welded to the frame and one welded to the shock mounting arm on the axle. Bolts go though the shocks and thread into these nuts. I suppose one could cut them off with a grinder and weld on new ones, but heating them up with a torch seems a lot easier.

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Old 01-27-2003, 07:18 PM   #5
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good tip

i've never seen anything that won't yeild to the hot wrench.

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Old 01-27-2003, 08:55 PM   #6
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Fortunately mine came off real easy,due to minimal exposure to all that northern salt I guess!
I have to agree that new ones are overpriced even on sale.Someone out there has to know a cross-reference to a common Gabiel that we can get for a tenspot!
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Nuts attachment

Roger the attachment scheme. I have an '85 Excella and the nuts are welded on and if I remember correctly (give me a break, we are calling it winter in CO) the bolt goes in from the back side on one of the two shocks per side. Anyway, what's life without an adventure.
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Old 01-27-2003, 09:44 PM   #8
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Hi folks,

New to forum except browsing in past few months. Just replaced shocks on 72 Land Yacht 25'. Used Monroe Gas-Matic 59041 GM from Advance Auto Parts @ $13.95 ea. Perfect fit, hope this helps.
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Old 01-27-2003, 10:30 PM   #9
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I was speaking of shocks for the trailers. These will be, of course, entirely different than those in a motorhome.

Which is the problem. They ARE different. You cannot use regular shocks because these are designed to be used horizontally, not vertically. The Gabriel part number is unique to Airstream. So far, I have heard of no replacement.

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Old 01-27-2003, 10:35 PM   #10
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shocks

I have a Delco p/n around here somewhere which is supposed to be the original equipment A/S shock. I will see if my auto parts wholesale connections will have any luck crossing the parts. Have heard that it is a OEM part only, not available to the public. I have also heard that using any shock other than the specific A/S part will not work, something to do with the almost horizontal position. I have refused and will refuse paying 2 to 3 times the going rate for parts, just because they may be for an RV. I have fought the boat dealers on this very thing for years.

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Old 01-28-2003, 08:28 AM   #11
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Sorry,

My 25' Land Yacht "Trade Wind" is a trailer. Personally, I don't believe a shock knows if it is standing up or laying down. Of course I have been wrong more times than most. Trailer seems to ride very well.
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Vertical shocks are easy. That is what my '66 has for it's axles. If you want more data, search this forum for other threads that gives cross references and other part #'s.

The horizontal ones do know the difference cause the dampening oil is not laying in the bottom of the shock. DO NOT use a vertical shock for anything other than vertical installations.

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Sorry about the confusion over the "Land Yacht". I skimmed right over the "72".

I can see that vertical oil dampened shocks might not work in a horizontal application, but what about gas shocks? Why would they care if they are up, down, or sideways?

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Gas Charged shocks

Great Q!

Gas charged shocks are filled with a gas (I think it's nitrogen)under pressure to help with the dampening. Those shocks still have oil in them and the placement of the valves determines the correct installation position. So if it is designed for vertical, install it that way. (BTW I learned this lesson the hard way)

For my trailer I went to NAPA to buy my vertical shocks and they had replacements. I could have and if I do it again I will go to another vendor. NAPA was close, easy, and quick. They had the shocks in stock. There is a trailer vendor in my city that would have been (in my opinion) a better source. - And I don't consider shocks to be all that big of a deal. ~~~~~ On the other hand the brakes were ....

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