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09-20-2009, 12:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 26' Overlander
Del Rio
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 46
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How to know if new axles are required?
I recently purchased a 1968 26' Overlander. I would saw it is ~90% original, and mostly everything is in working order. However, I have read that a trailer of this age often needs its axles replaced. How do I evaluate my trailer to see if I too should replace my axles. I hauled it back ~700 miles from where I purchased it, and I did not notice any that caught my attention while driving it home.
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09-20-2009, 12:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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Basically the arms that hold the wheels should point slightly downward. If the arms point up the axle rubber rods have taken a set and the axles need to be replaced. Jack the trailer up on one side. If the wheels do not come down three inches or so then the rubber rods in the axles has become hard and will not provide the proper suspension. The rods are not a serviceable item and therefore the axles need to be replaced. At one time one manufacturer would take back axles and rebuild them but that is not the case now.
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09-20-2009, 03:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
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09-20-2009, 04:02 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,510
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Go here - Inland RV Center - The Nations Leading Expert in Airstream Innovations
Click on the left under articles and look at the Dura Torque axles.
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09-21-2009, 06:12 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 26' Overlander
Del Rio
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 46
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what size axles are needed?
Thanks for the link to the article...it was perfect. So after checking my trailer, it appears as though my torsion arms have about a 0 angle with the frame, not as bad as it could be, but probably still needs to be replaced. For my 1968 26' Airstream Overlander International, what size axle should I get. Two axles actually, since this is a duel axle trailer. How much should I expect this to cost?
Thanks,
Dan
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09-21-2009, 06:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Horizontal arms may be OK to marginal. Follow the test above to see how far the wheels drop when the trailer is jacked up before the wheels lift off the ground 3 inches is great. A little less, approaching 2" is more maginal. The axle rating may be stamped on a plate on the axles. You can also take the registered weight divide by 2 and add 500# + or minus. The general recommendation nowadays to go with a somewhat heavier axle rating than original factory equipment.
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09-21-2009, 06:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Dan...there are axle prices on that InlandRV site...you'll have to call them for the exact axles you'll need for your trailer - they have all that info!
Got two for our 78 Ambassador from them last year, and they fit right into place without any hassle...check em' out!
If you decide to get new axles, order them with the complete brake set-ups - it's nice to have all new stuff down there near the road, and it's not much of an additional expense if your order with the axles...good luck.
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09-21-2009, 08:56 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68-Ovrlndr
How much should I expect this to cost?
Thanks,
Dan
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Price will vary depending on many factors
DIY or have a shop install axles
Full axle replacement with loaded brake assemblies or a bare axle and use all of your old brake parts.
OEM (Henschen) or an aftermarket vendor
Shipping is a variable however that is dependant on your location.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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09-21-2009, 08:59 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
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If it were me, I would spec out a set of axles that were about 10% bigger in load capacity and have a installed angle greater than OE.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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09-21-2009, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1982 24' Airstream 240
Ventura
, California
Join Date: May 2006
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Why not get disc brakes while you are at it?
Check with www.area63productions.com for the specs...you will not be sorry.. paula
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09-21-2009, 09:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68-Ovrlndr
How much should I expect this to cost?
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A couple of years ago I got a pair of #10 Dexters with brakes and shock mount for about $750. Number #11 axles would have cost me another $150. You would probably need #11s for an Overlander. I have heard the prices have gone up considerably. If I remember right at that time Henshens (equivalent to Dexter #11 axles) would have cost me close to 2 grand. Those were DIY prices.
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09-21-2009, 09:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
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The axles on our '83 27' Excella had a slight up angle. They were rated at 2,800 lbs. The trailer weighs in at 5670 empty. I replaced them with 32 degree 3,500 lb axles from Inland RV. The brakes had just been replaced by the previous owner, so I went with bare axles. They supplied new bolts and the shock mounts were already on the axles.
Less than a day's work using two 5 ton jack stands, a 2 ton floor jack and air tools. I took my time, even stopped for a nice lunch break. Getting axles with brakes and drums will cut the time in less than half. Most of the time was spent removing and replacing the brake and drum assembles.
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09-23-2009, 07:28 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1962 22' Safari
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Grayling
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 17
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Yesterday I bought a piece of property with...I think, a 1965 Land Yacht Safari. My husband and I would like to move it to our principle home and start restoration on it. It has been on the property a minimum 17 years. Tires are not pancaked and I would say 1/2 full of air. The plate information is as follows: 22T5 S0732
6201
I will show my husband these postings and see what can be done.
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