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Old 06-06-2011, 05:15 PM   #1
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How do you know if your axles are going bad?

I want to avoid any issues on the road, so I'm wondering what are the signs that your axles are going bad.
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:33 PM   #2
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I want to avoid any issues on the road, so I'm wondering what are the signs that your axles are going bad.
The following article is a part of the Airstream Central section of this Forums.
It will tell you how to quickly check out your axles.

The Dura-Torque Axle

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The first sign for me with our 63 Safari was when I couldn't get the tire out of the wheel well. Very little suspension travel, when jacked up the torsion arm would not come down far enough, rubber had hardened. Another sign, tire too high in the wheel well, lowrider trailer.
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The first sign of your axles going bad is when, after posting a photo of your trailer, an axle vendor tells you your axles are shot...
Seriously, the way to tell is to raise the trailer off its wheels, and watch how far the tires drop before leaving the ground. The more travel the better.
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When the rims on the tires are even with the wheelwell opening ,you can pretty well figure "ITS TIME" When you see things begin to move around in the coach,like the TP unrolling or the paper roll towel unrolling. What you DONT WANNA SEE is the RIVETS HEADS POPPING OFF first around the wheel well opening,then watch to the small rivets in the interior will get a little grey like dust around the heads. AND THEN YA KNOW ITS TIME.
I thought I could get by my first season but the signs were to great. NO VENDOR ever told me "YOUR AXLES ARE SHOT". This signs were there all I had to be was smart enought to heed them.
THERE are lots of mfgers in the game now so you can kinda pick and choose. READ ANDYS article and see what it says,and decide for yourself. My axle arms were exactlly horizontal to the frame and when I jacked it up thats where they stayed. NO MOVEMENT MEANS BIG DAMAGE ON THE HORIZION.
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The first sign of your axles going bad is when, after posting a photo of your trailer, an axle vendor tells you your axles are shot...
Seriously, the way to tell is to raise the trailer off its wheels, and watch how far the tires drop before leaving the ground. The more travel the better.
Maybe an ignorant question....Can you just use the levelers to raise the trailer off the ground?
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Maybe an ignorant question....Can you just use the levelers to raise the trailer off the ground?
No, they are not levelers, they are stabilizers.
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Maybe an ignorant question....Can you just use the levelers to raise the trailer off the ground?
As dznf0g said already, the stabilizers built-in to some trailers (all the new ones, I think, but optional on older models) are NOT intended to support any of the trailer's weight, just to keep it from bouncing around when you're set up on a campsite and moving about inside.

Actual levelers that you drive the trailer onto, such as the Lynx blocks, can be used. Just pull only 1 of the 2 wheels up onto the blocks and observe the motion of the tire/axle that's not supported by the blocks.
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As dznf0g said already, the stabilizers built-in to some trailers (all the new ones, I think, but optional on older models) are NOT intended to support any of the trailer's weight, just to keep it from bouncing around when you're set up on a campsite and moving about inside.

Actual levelers that you drive the trailer onto, such as the Lynx blocks, can be used. Just pull only 1 of the 2 wheels up onto the blocks and observe the motion of the tire/axle that's not supported by the blocks.
Or, you can use a couple of 2 x 6s, or even 2 x 4s.

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With axles 33 years old, one 2x6 or 2x4 may tell the story. If only one under one wheel lifts the other off the ground, it is certainly new axle time.

Give it a try.
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With axles 33 years old, one 2x6 or 2x4 may tell the story. If only one under one wheel lifts the other off the ground, it is certainly new axle time.

Give it a try.
JIm: I wanted to try the "quick and dirty test" today. Drove front wheel on to one 2 x 10; rear wheel stayed firmly on the ground. Backed off and drove front axle up on two 2 x 10s; rear axle seemed to come up a small amount but tire was still on the ground. Did not have my jack with me so I could not jack up one side as suggested. Did the "board" test seem to confirm that my axles are probably okay?
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I just got new axles for my 65. I didn't have the typical crap flying everywhere in my trailer. But my axles were frozen in place, I have a few stringers in the walls popped and some outer skin damage where a couple outriggers rubbed thru.
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I did the axle on my 74, 20' Argosy. I didn't think there was anything really wrong with the original, but the brakes and shocks were shot and I decided that the least expensive thing to do was to replace everything at once. It was an excellent investment. The trailer tows even better now, far less interior movement of items, great brakes, easy to service bearings with external Zerk fittings. This year I went to new AL 16 inch wheels with LT 225/75 16 E range tires running 60 psi pressure (correct for the trailer weight) and once again feel that the towing and ride improvement was worth the cost.

Lets face it, almost everything on a 35 year old rig needs to be replaced, just like a 35 year old home. If you do your axels, I don't think you will be disappointed in your investment.
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JIm: I wanted to try the "quick and dirty test" today. Drove front wheel on to one 2 x 10; rear wheel stayed firmly on the ground. Backed off and drove front axle up on two 2 x 10s; rear axle seemed to come up a small amount but tire was still on the ground. Did not have my jack with me so I could not jack up one side as suggested. Did the "board" test seem to confirm that my axles are probably okay?
Check to see if there is down angle on the trailing arms with the trailer fully loaded and ready for the road. If not, replace for sure.

If it was my trailer, with 33 year old axles, I would replace them. I can't imagine that they are working properly. I had an axle failure on the road with the Caravel. I just wouldn't take the chance. New axles are cheap compared to the damage done when an axle suffers complete failure going down the highway. When the axle broke on the Caravel, and the wheel took an "adios" across two lanes of traffic, damaged the side of the trailer and two cars traveling along side, I was lucky that no one was hurt.

This was not a fun time.
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