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Old 04-09-2014, 11:48 AM   #1
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How Do I Get This Bolt

This is the rear axle bolt, the end of the thread is about a quarter of an inch away from the tank shroud. Cut off wheel wont reach it torsion arm blocks front of bolt, open end on both sides aint gonna do it. Drop tank covers I'm thinking?? I hope the tanks are supported by something other than the cover. Any Ideas??
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #2
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Box end wrench (preferably six point so it's less likely to strip the flats off the nut) with longest cheater bar that will fit the space. Might have to grind the wrench down a little so it will fit between the end of the bolt and the tank cover.

If it won't turn, perhaps a Sawzall.

Good luck. Same project in our near future.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:08 PM   #3
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This is the rear axle bolt, the end of the thread is about a quarter of an inch away from the tank shroud. Cut off wheel wont reach it torsion arm blocks front of bolt, open end on both sides aint gonna do it. Drop tank covers I'm thinking?? I hope the tanks are supported by something other than the cover. Any Ideas??
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1. you should be able to get a box end wrench on the nut and another one on the bolt head. May have to pry the tank shroud away a little bit to slide it over the bolt.

Use a real box end not one of those ratcheting ones; ratcheing ones are larger and might not fit. A six-point box end will shear the bolt before it slips

2. failing that you can try a fitting wrench which will give you quite a bit more torque than an open end wrench but not as much as a box end

3. should be able to get a vise grip on the bolt head too

4. cutting torch (using a wet rag to protect things that need it)

5. sawzall

With either the torch or the sawzall you have the choice of cutting through the nut or just shortening the bolt to the point where you can get a wrench on it.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:09 PM   #4
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It is a little hard to tell what is going on there. You are trying to remove that bolt that is blocked by the torsion arm? How is removing the tank cover going to help? A cutting torch will get that baby out. Are you replacing the axles?

The holding tanks are supported by the pans only. The tank pans are thick steel. You will most likely find that the bolts holding the pans will break before they come loose. Airstream must have done a lot of research into finding just the right alloy of bolt so that once it is put in that is rusts and won't ever come out. The same goes for the bolts that hold the bal jacks on.

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I'm not able to see all of the area you're working in, but a suggestion. Heat. Don't jump yet. Shield what cannot tolerate the heat with a steel heat shield like a plate of steel and use a butane micro torch. A rather small hot controlled flame MIGHT work. Remember I'm not seeing the whole thing clearly. Be careful busted knuckles hurt big-time. Also spraying with PB BLASTER or other repeating frequently for days might be enough.

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Old 04-09-2014, 12:40 PM   #6
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What you don't see in that pic is the tank cover, which is just off the end of the bolt, I'm talking quarter inch. Don't have a torch, front axle used cut off wheel on back sie, cut thru nut and bolt flush to axle flange so pushin gbolt out wasn't a problem. So the back pan holds the tanks up, jeez, I don't want to break anything in there. I took off the front fresh water tank cause it had a leak, but that also helped access the bolts. Sawzall didn't seem to work on front bolts so used cutoff wheel, and the ones I could wrench, big breaker bar with my feet on it barely got em going, so open ends and vise grips won't cut it, ya need some big torque here.
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Oh, and pb blaster for 2 weeks didn't seem to do anything.
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You need a nut splitter. Yes that is a real thing. It is a loop shaped thing with a blade driven by a bolt. You tighten the bolt and it drives a blade into the nut and it eventually breaks it.

nut splitter tool from Northern Tool + Equipment


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Old 04-09-2014, 01:14 PM   #9
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I second the nut splitter. They also have them at harbor freight ... Not the best quality but will do the job for sure.
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I don't think a nut splitter will fit but even if it did the bolt will not come out past the torsion arm. It ideally needs to be torched, Im going to the tool store to find the toughest sawzall blade I can.
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A sawzall with a bi-metal blade will take care of this in short order.
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If you jack up the trailer will the torsion arm still be in the way?
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:44 PM   #13
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Yes the torsion arm is still in the way, and Kevin u were right the sawzall did it, but hardly in short order. I went to my tool guy and got a 5 pack of lenox 14 tpi blades and used em all, but got em. I would say a half hour per bolt, but wait, the saga continues.


Got all bolts out disconnected shocks, and the curb side axle didn't seem to want to drop. got a pry bar under the axle flange, but it still wouldn't come down. The street side was free, now on closer inspection, look at the pic. Remember ur looking up from the ground. The black and rusty thing is the axle tube, the oxidized thing is the black and grey tank shroud. Now look at the rusty axle flange that runs across the top. It appears to me,that when the tanks were installed, the shroud was notched out to clear the axle flange, which is also preventing the axle from dropping!!


Now, options, drop the tanks,which I really don't want to do, or take cut off wheel and try to notch out tank shroud without cutting into tank. Im thinking there must be at least a half inch of insulation around the tanks??? idk whaddya think?? I do know beer makes everything better!!!
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This is the best blade I've used yet to cut metal with
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