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Old 02-02-2011, 02:32 AM   #1
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Henschen replacment axles

Thinking about getting a replacement axle for my 19' CCD. Want to get a new 4500 or 5000 pound one. Talking with Inland RV.

Looks like Henschen is gone?

What has anyone heard about the current replacement axles good or bad?


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Old 02-02-2011, 02:37 AM   #2
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Do you think your axle has gone bad? Seems early compared to other posts related to axles. What are symptoms that you are trying to correct? (Interested, because we have the same year and size, except not CCD.)
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Hello JD and Phoenix,
It would seem like an early failure for your axle but I have read that it is possible for the torsion axle rubber to harden with inactivity in just a few years. I suggest you talk with Colin Hyde of Colin Hyde trailer restorations. He is a distributor of Axis axles. Axis bought some of the leftover Henschen equipment. Axles from Colin Hyde are about half of what Inland charges. $430 vs $750.
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Hello JD and Phoenix,
It would seem like an early failure for your axle but I have read that it is possible for the torsion axle rubber to harden with inactivity in just a few years. I suggest you talk with Colin Hyde of Colin Hyde trailer restorations. He is a distributor of Axis axles. Axis bought some of the leftover Henschen equipment. Axles from Colin Hyde are about half of what Inland charges. $430 vs $750.
Thanks to you and Phoenix,


Yes the axles are marginal - the trailer sat for 2 years.

What I am really asking is are the current axles the same quality as the old Henschen axles? Its unclear to me who is making them now? or is Colin Hyde producing them for Inland RV? Inland RV is much closer to me so that is also a consideration.

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Give us some pix...we have a fetish about that and you could help.

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Its unclear to me who is making them now? or is Colin Hyde producing them for Inland RV?
All those axles are now manufactured by Axis, to the same specifications, no matter who you buy them from. They are all manufactured in Indiana, again no matter who you buy them from.
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Sorry, I have no personal experience with axles. However, please update this thread when you have completed repairs (or decide not to do it), as I am interested in the outcome. --Thanks.
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hi jd'

got any pie!

even sitting for 2 years shouldn't kill one 6 year old axle.

some of these units sit at least that long on dealer lots.
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2004-5 was ~ when a/s switched to dexters on some of the safari/int' models...

what is on your unit?
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is the plan to use the same/original rating or go a bit higher?

lots of options 4 a newer bambi.
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ANY a/s shop can order axles for your unit.

so either of the 2 shops IN oregon could order and install...

((guessing U won't do the actual wrenching))

the henschens=quality statement is not absolute.

they made changes and UNchanges and REchanges in production over the years,

and some of those changes were not improvements.
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it's sorta like pie,

some are great and some are less so.

even 2 year old pie (frozen) might be better than no pie.

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Old 02-02-2011, 03:34 PM   #9
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Even a 2 year old pie.

Man, do youy have a way with words. Now Im hungry.
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I actually just got done putting a new axle on my 2006 19' ccd. I changed mine because the passenger side wheel bearings came apart and destroyed the spindle. I had to do a near-roadside axle replacement. I was also 700 miles from home. And yes i greased the bearings and checked them before the trip, but obviously i missed something. Back to the axle. My trailer had a Dexter axle. I chose to order a replacement from an airstream dealership to make sure that it fit perfect. I am sure i could have saved money by ordering it directly from Dexter but the axle not fitting was not an option. And besides there is nothing easier than just giving your trailer vin number and getting the exact replacement axle. It took 2 weeks to receive the new axle and it took four hours to get it hooked up to the trailer. Granted the old axle wasn't old but it failed the drop test. It only dropped an inch and a half when i jacked it up. The new axle rides much better than the old one. Double check your axle it might be a Dexter, I would think the '05 and '06 would have the same axle? Let me know if you want to know some of the problems you will encounter when replacing the axle on our model of trailer.
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I bought three 3500# axles from Axis through Andy at Inland in November, and did the installation in December. You can find a thread with pics under Henschen Axle Install.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:38 AM   #12
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I love this forum...

OK more info for those of you with axle fetishes - The arms are parallel to the ground (zero angle) (and the trailer is completely empty. (I mean no water, winterized empty...) )

overlander63 - Yes Talked to Collin today. AXIS axles are the replacement for Henschen. Apparently quality is as good or better than Henschen.

2airishuman - Long time no see. I have pie from my friend Sherry. Come and visit us at the secret alien landing site some time. The pie positively glows in the dark

1. Currently I have a 4300 pound Henschen. I checked the plate.

2. I want about a 4 inch lift - Want to go to a 4500 or 5000 pound axle. Also want to go to a 35 degree down angle but I hear that is no longer an option with AXIS. Is 5000 going to be too stiff (or too much lift) if my average weight is about 3900 while towing?

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Ok - A huge thank you to Colin Hyde. I spent almost an hour on the phone with him and he has been installing AXIS axles for years. This man knows axles and loves Airstreams. (You can hear the passion when you talk with him.) If I was anywhere near the East Coat I would go to him. He knows his stuff. So if anyone has any axle or repair needs, talk to him.

Lastly, Colin confirmed that when Henschen closed down some of the equipment went to AXIS. So again AXIS seems to be the way to go. (AXIS must have gotten a good deal on the equipment.)

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Hey JD! Those pies starting to bounce around in the trailer? How much is your trailer weighing these days.. I'd weigh it and then go from there. I think you might be surprised how much your trailer weighs... I bet it's pretty close to 5000 already. (For comparison sake, my Argosy weighs about 4500 on the CAT scale).

Just one other option... you can phone Uwe at http://www.area63productions.com and order a Dexter from him. I bought a 4500 Dexter with discs.

Colin's a good guy too... so many options out there. 5" more clearance? I could sleep under there for the next rally!

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hi marc...

the truth is jd' may have been carrying way2much pie in bambi...

which leads 2 sagginaxleitis.

now the average double crust apple pie weighs 4 lbs,

so when jd' is hauling the basic rally ration of 100 of those fruit filled treats,

there's very little carry capacity left for napkins, a la mode offerings and whipped cream.

he could switch to hauling pumpkin, but even that may be a challenge...


it seems the record 4 big pumkin pie was ~2000lbs back in 05.

that's ONE pie folks.


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the same group managed to break their OWN record in 2010,

with an ~ thirtysevenHUNDRED pound pie.

so jd' would need to an a 2nd axle to bambi (and a larger zipdee awning) just to haul this one.

and guess where the record was set? (caution a/s content ahead)

about 25 miles west of the mothership in new bremen ohio...

YouTube - World's Largest Pumpkin Pie New Bremen, OH

at their annual P'fest.

New World's Record At Bremen PumpkinFest - News Story - WHIO Dayton

so when ordering that axle be sure 2 let the factory folks know U will be haulin' pies...




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