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Old 07-19-2006, 11:45 PM   #15
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The high bracket..

may not sit all the way inthe "saddle" of orginal mounts on your trailer... look at Dexter's website again and envision your trailer. Last time I looked, it didn't look like it would work... but that's my 2 cents.

As far as the axle and mount holes not totally lining up... can't one just drill a new set of holes in the existing to new bracket?

Sigh... I'm thinking the old Henschen route really may be the easier route to take...
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Brad,

Dexter also produces 45 without custom ordering - I am very surprised they do not offer a 32.

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I installed a 3500 lb Dexter #10 axle with hi-lift brackets, brakes, e-z lube option, and a 22.5* down angle on an '87 Burro last year.

The Dexter site not only gives the dimensional specs, they will also give an approximate height to the frame brackets with 15" wheels. Decide what height you want the bottom of your frame to ride at, and then choose the down angle that will give you approximately that ride height, loaded.

I ordered mine from Midwest Wheel in Cedar Rapids IA. The measurements are easy to take, and the axle fit perfectly when it got here. I bought it FOB Cedar Rapids, and it only took a couple of weeks to deliver it to Midwest Wheel.

The old axle on that trailer was a Dexter #9, and the brackets had to be cut off as they were different from the current #10 brackets. It shouldn't be much different to cut the old Henschen off your Airstream and install the Dexter brackets. Any competent welding shop ought to be able to handle it. The shock issue is interesting; Airstream seems to be the only company who uses them... I don't think anyone has been able to give a definitive answer as to why Airstream uses them. They certainly don't hurt anything. Whether or not they help much is probably up to interpretation. Good luck.

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Word from Dexter...

Well, I sent a message to Dexter last night, asking if 32* is an available angle. They wrote back today, saying that that is a standard angle, and should be readily available to any retailer. The shop I went through had no trouble getting the first axle on, it just rides far too low, and I shouldn't have trusted them to come up with the correct angle on their own. Oh well...
Their estimate is $550 for the axle (including freight) and $140 for labor. So at this point, I'm glad I decided to start this process now instead of a few weeks before we would be pulling out of town. It's hard to go far without an axle. I suppose now what I have to do is forward the Dexter message to the shop and say something dramatic like "either get a 32* axle, or put my old one back on". Maybe I should wear a cape when I say this for dramatic effect.

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Actually, Brad, if they welded the bolt-on brackets to your trailer when they replaced it the first time, the labor should be signficantly less. It's just a matter of unbolting the old one, bolting on the new one, replacing the tires, and reconnecting the brake wiring. If they directly welded the axle to the frame, it'll be a little more effort.

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Maybe I should wear a cape when I say this for dramatic effect.

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That, or just wave your Lightsaber menacingly...
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Well, I sent a message to Dexter last night, asking if 32* is an available angle. They wrote back today, saying that that is a standard angle, and should be readily available to any retailer.

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Brad,

That's good news! I thought the 32 should be offered. Good job digging in and setting things straight. Future folks that want to order from Dexter will benefit from your hard work.

The Dexter web site is the nicest, most informative, that I have seen from any axle manufacturer!

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Brad,

As a side note I would have some issues with a shop that doesn't have the data. Or isn't looking for it. The fact that you are doing the research and not them is an interesting situation. They are the professionals.

So if you brought it in and asked for a stock replacement and they went forward in their uninformed way, what would have been the result?

Then my next question would be ...... what else are they missing?

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Henschen axles

Brad.

All we need is the trailer serial number, shipping address and a Credit Card.

That gives us all the information thats necessary, to order your axle the same day, that has a guaranteed perfect fit.

Boils down to how much time a person wants to spend chasing and figuring out the if's ands and buts.

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Currently in the middle of nowhere, apparently...

For everyone that thought Aspen, CO was actually somewhere, I have to burst the bubble. We're a little downvalley from Aspen, and it's hard to find actual useful things, like trailer repair shops. This is a better place for finding Gucci or Prada. The first repair shop is 40 miles away, and didn't like the idea of ordering an axle that wasn't through one of their suppliers... thus Inland RV was taken out of consideration.
I would have gone with a Dexter anyway, to be honest. It fits just fine- I've been under there and looked at the thing. They just ordered it with the wrong angle, or no angle at all. Total price, driving away, will be about $690 for the axle that Airstream installs on their new trailers. I think my entire problem is that someone there doesn't know how to fill out a form.
The next question will be: Where to get load range D tires around here that the warranty will be honored nationally. Hmm... One thing at a time.

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The next question will be: Where to get load range D tires around here that the warranty will be honored nationally. Hmm... One thing at a time.

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try www.tirerack.com
they will ship to you within a few days. They have Marathons in your size and oad range for a very good price.
You should be able to find a local installer, even in Aspen.
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Brad,

Since you are mobile, why don't you wait until you get to anther location?

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tires and such

Action,

I suppose we could have waited to do the axle somewhere else, but the next part of our "great circle route" will be bringing us to a lot of places that are a bit remote. Also, I think a project like this needs to have a lot of time built in for exactly what happened here.
As it turns out, the shop is doing a bit of research- they even called Inland, and were told it would be about $1250 for an axle. I have no idea how much of that is markup... I thought Andy told me about $850 for the whole axle, delivered when we sent a few messagees back and forth about a year ago.
Of course, you may have only been talking about the tire replacement thing. Ours are almost bald at this point- no poly showing through, but in definite need. I'd rather replace them here and just have the whole thing done, with a pretty good spare ready to go. Big O Tires is probably going to be the lucky winner, though I will take the suggestion and check what Tire Rack has to offer in local installers. I'd just like to get a road hazard warranty on all six tires that we have. I'm starting to sound like my dad...

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Brad,

Your axle scenario makes me think that you're dealing with total idiots.
I dealt with Dexter on several occasions, and it took 1 order and 1 call to make VERY custom axles for my 63 Overlander, which fit perfectly short of the bolt pattern. Be firm - make them call Dexter engineering to get what you need. Their product is first class - most of their dealers are pathetically inept.
On the tires - tire rack offers a road hazrd warranty. The sandard Good Year warranty applies either way.
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