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Old 06-24-2009, 11:41 AM   #15
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Good idea about sending the axle to Dexter, will certainly bring it up when I meet with the local dealer.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:25 PM   #16
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Well good luck with the Dexters. I hope they get the measurments correct. They, I heard are not to accurate. I dont know what kind of guarantee they have if they miss the mark.
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I put new Dexters on my Tradewind and have had no problems. Dexter considers axles within spec if measurements are up to 1/8" under size on the measurements but the measurements can't be bigger. The critical measurement is the axle mounting flange.

You do have to understand the measuring process well. You also will have to drill some new mounting holes. Henshens are supposed to fit right in.

The one horror story I heard about Dexters bing too big was an measuring mistake a dealer made. You can order factory direct.

I suggest you download the Dexter Application Guide from their website which will make things clearer.
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Just to clarify. I didn't say Dexters were not any good. There were a few threads I read a yr or so ago that the axles did not fit properly.That was probably a measuring mistake by the person handling the tape. I will tell ya went I took my old Henshens out,I was very supprised to see stamped in the backing plates the word DEXTER. I immediatly called Andy,because I thought I had made a mistake, but he reassured me Dexter has been makin backing plates and brake parts for Henshen forever,only the axles themselves were Henshen. And it is true the cut-away in the hall at JC is Dexter and that is what has been installed in new Airstreams for the last several yrs,at least 3 I know of because we have taken the tour 3 times.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:07 PM   #18
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Yeah, I even found some Dexter "dealers" that were only carrying the brake parts, not dealing with the axles. I was hoping to get a DE dealer to avoid sales tax since we take a couple trips a year down there, unfortunately, none would touch the axle.

My local dealer was more than willing to send one of my old axles back as a template, he is calling back with the quotes this afternoon.
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Yeah, I even found some Dexter "dealers" that were only carrying the brake parts, not dealing with the axles. I was hoping to get a DE dealer to avoid sales tax since we take a couple trips a year down there, unfortunately, none would touch the axle.

My local dealer was more than willing to send one of my old axles back as a template, he is calling back with the quotes this afternoon.
Rich.

Part of the cost of anything, also includes "chasing down" time, time on telephones etc.

Many people chose original parts of every kind and description, so that they will not waste time, as well as not "assuming" that a "knock off" part is equal to the original.

When you have something custom made to your specs, you own it. If it works, great, if it doesn't then...........you still own it.

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Old 06-24-2009, 03:12 PM   #20
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Isn't the starting angle rather steep at 45 degrees? Just wondering what angle they are at when you are loaded and heading down the road?
The angle depends on how much its loaded and what the specs were when you ordered it. I believe I ordered mine to carry 3500 lbs each (the originals said 2800) and just guessing they sit at 28-35 degrees loaded. It does not appear to ride higher than a new Airstream. I would do it the exact same way in a heartbeat. We never pop any doors open, and we have had the same propane lamp mantle in place for over 2 years, so I'm guessing the ride back there is pretty good! I'd like to try it some day.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:57 PM   #21
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I have had Dexter's on a cargo trailer and they did great. The trailer did have a bit of rocking under load due to the lack of shocks, but it did it's job well.

I used Henchen's on my AS. There are times when OEM parts serve best when looking at it from several points rather than cost or any one item. Sort of a gestalt of reasons.

The Henchlens bolted right in and were already fitted with new brakes. They did not need modification. It was my feeling--for my circumstances that between running around getting measurements and spec's, ordering the axles then checking the specs and assuming that everything went right-it usually does go fine-then getting brake plates and mounting them then the brakes etc. I found it cheaper to get the Henchlen, it bolted right in and after about a mile pull the alignment was checked and was in spec. If you order spec'd axles, don't forget to make specs with tolerance definitions. the tighter the tolerances, the more the modification will cost. If you just do a tape measurement then you must be prepared for wide tolerance levels.

If raw cost is the only factor get the Dexter's, they are great axles. You may have a few more hassles but you will save a couple of hundred when it is all over. If you get it set up right, the axels may last 35 years like my old Henchlens. Last I knew my old cargo trailer is still in service (with another owner) and it is over twenty years old. As far as my AS, I have confidence my Henchlens were set up right (the fit was excellent) and will last till long after my time is past.

All any of us can do is relate our experiences with the various manufactorers. There are a lot of factors to think about.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:07 PM   #22
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Wow, the Dexters came back at $600 an axle plus I would pay for the freight to get my axle there. Plus that does not include shocks. Think I am going with Andy and the Dura Torques since I am pretty sure his package price includes the shocks too.

If I really wanted to, the factory is only a 6 hour drive away in OH so I could probably cut out the freight for the DT's all-together.

I am going to wait til next spring so I can save my pennies and put them on at the end of the renovation.

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Wow, the Dexters came back at $600 an axle plus I would pay for the freight to get my axle there. Plus that does not include shocks. Think I am going with Andy and the Dura Torques since I am pretty sure his package price includes the shocks too.

If I really wanted to, the factory is only a 6 hour drive away in OH so I could probably cut out the freight for the DT's all-together.

I am going to wait til next spring so I can save my pennies and put them on at the end of the renovation.

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2 years ago I paid less than $400 an axle for #10 Dexters,including the shock mounts and easy lube hubs. They were shipped from the MO factory to my front door in NM for less than $150 for both.
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As I will be replacing my axles I am curious about something you said in your post about alignment. Did you check alignment yourself and if so how. I guess I was not aware that trailers needed alignment. Still learning.
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Wow, the Dexters came back at $600 an axle plus I would pay for the freight to get my axle there. Plus that does not include shocks. Think I am going with Andy and the Dura Torques since I am pretty sure his package price includes the shocks too.

If I really wanted to, the factory is only a 6 hour drive away in OH so I could probably cut out the freight for the DT's all-together.

I am going to wait til next spring so I can save my pennies and put them on at the end of the renovation.

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Don't you have a local axle business that will do the whole job for you, shocks and all
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I just installed a Flexride axle under my GT,3500# 10" brakes,6 lug so I could keep my original wheels.I had to drill the mounting holes,but I would have had to do that with the Duratorque also.I talked to the tech.,had the mounts reversed,and 36 deg. down.It was shipped from Lubbock,Tx.for a total of $475.62.I think that is a pretty good deal. Dave
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It could be nice to know. Does anyone know the ride height on these trailers when the axels are new? I read somewhere here on a thread that the axles should not necessarily have to be replaced if the axle arms had a "positive" angle, but not more accurate than that. Does anyone know if using gas-filled shockbsorbers would be an alternative to replacing the axles if they are starting to get low?
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I just installed a Flexride axle under my GT,3500# 10" brakes,6 lug so I could keep my original wheels.I had to drill the mounting holes,but I would have had to do that with the Duratorque also.I talked to the tech.,had the mounts reversed,and 36 deg. down.It was shipped from Lubbock,Tx.for a total of $475.62.I think that is a pretty good deal. Dave
Please be advised that the 10 inch brakes, have a maximum stopping power of 3500 pounds, brand new. The trailer itself weighes more than that with a typical payload.

You must adjust them every 1000 miles or so, to compensate for wear.

In an emergency, they can't begin to stop your trailer and tow vehicle, safely, should the tow vehicle brakes for some reason, not work. Slow down, yes, stop, only if there is a long road ahead of you.

Down grading the size of the trailer brakes, is not a good idea. The other side of that coin is usually the axle has smaller spindles as well.

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