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Old 01-21-2007, 03:39 PM   #15
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I recall that Inland RV's $800 per axle deal gives you complete brake assemblies. Worth considering because your brakes are probably due for a complete overhaul too, and you'll save a lot of time and trouble just replacing everything at once.

Also, if you buy something else and are not careful you can end up with rubber torsion axles without shock absorber brackets. I bought a trailer like this, and learned firsthand that shocks do make a significant difference in trailer ride (smoother tow, less porpoising and rocking). They are beneficial for the structure of the trailer too.

Original equipment replacements, are hard to beat.

Price alone does not solve that problem, nor will it ever.

A seeming equal and at a price considerably lower, hardly ever works. Something is missing.

Somehow, someway, a company has figured out a way to seemingly have an equal, until you get to the details. When that happens, you will usually find that quality of the labor involved as well as the quality of the material used, are not the same as the original equipment, but indeed, far inferior.

The American way says that every day.

The choices are many.

Buy cheap, thats what you get.

Originals usually are not cheap, and for very good reasons.

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So what if you had a Dexter Axle the fit the airstream with little or no modifictions needed...similar to the way the Henschen is delivered today. With their broad dealer network and given their quality of a product, what would be the key benefits of ordering Henschen for twice the price. Lesser price does not mean it is a cheap product. I would think he fact that you can only get the Henschen from Inland RV would be monopolistic in many ways and would drive the price up higher than the true value. Bottom line just courious to see what makes Henschen better than Dexter.
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Right on.

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You are exactly right. If Airstream uses Dexter - that speaks volumes!!!!! Dexter is the largest manufacturer of trailer axles in the USA with over 300 dealers. They have more folks in Engineering than Henschen has employees. Airstream made the choice to use the Dexter axle - they know what they are doing or would not have been in business 75 years!

Additionally, a Henschen axle uses a lot of Dexter parts. Dexter's R&D budget likely exceeds Henschens net sales.

The draw back to the Henschen axle, as I've always said - they make a great product, is the price. The $800.00 axle is not $800.00. Actually it is close to the same price as the Dexter less the exclusive distributor markup.

Just two cents from a retired Axleman - AKA "Director of Business Development" that was forced to know his competition.

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Andy,

I understand the angle is measured with the wheel off or unloaded, correct?

One question is what is the angle of the torsion bar supposed to be under the weight of the trailer?
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Lets leave the Dexter vs Henschen discussion for awhile.
If someone wants to answer Bob, we can then close this thread. Ok?
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Andy,

I understand the angle is measured with the wheel off or unloaded, correct?

One question is what is the angle of the torsion bar supposed to be under the weight of the trailer?
Bob,

You are correct!

Go to Dexter Axle - Trailer Axles and Running Gear Components - HOME they have all of the engineering data posted on the site.

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Andy,

I understand the angle is measured with the wheel off or unloaded, correct?

One question is what is the angle of the torsion bar supposed to be under the weight of the trailer?
The original unloaded starting angle was 22 1/25 degrees for most of the trailers.

The angle of the torsion arm depends on the load imposed as well as it's individual well being.

A unloaded trailer with a bad torsion axle will be at zero or actually go upwards as it goes rearward.

A good axle will have a downward angle, but again, since it's weight sensitive, there is no ideal measurement that you can use.

However, when the trailer is fully loaded for travel, the downward angle should still be apparent. If the torsion arm is parallel or going upward from the ground, then either the axle or axles are shot, they are overloaded, or, possibly both.

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thanks for the answer and now lets move on.....
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