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Old 02-09-2009, 09:19 PM   #1
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Complete axles for 375.00??

I am replacing the axles on my 63 Ambassador and have been given a quote of $375.00 each for the complete axle (Dexter). I have also asked for a price on just the base axle. Does anyone have any idea if this is a reasonable price?

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Old 02-09-2009, 09:21 PM   #2
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we paid $800 each for complete axles with brakes, bearings, etc....
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:26 PM   #3
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thats reasonable

I got my last axels from Southwest Axel in Dallas. Perfect fit, 12 in brakes...a complete, ready to go assembly.....$380.00. My Henchen was great too....three times as expensive.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:47 PM   #4
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My HENSHENS were $750 each complete with 12 inch brakes, that included the freight. I might add that they fit perfect with all the holes in the correct places. I changed them myself in 4 hrs. Oh I forgot to mention Im 70 yrs old. NO STRAIN NO PAIN
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:15 AM   #5
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That's about right for Dexters. As mentioned above, for Henshens double the price.
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Let us know how the install goes. I need to replace mine as well.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:41 AM   #7
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I`m not familiar with the 63 Ambassador,does it use the torsion axle? Dave
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:27 AM   #8
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That's the going rate for a standard, fully stacked torsion axle. Two of the four bolt holes line up. The other two can be easily drilled out for installation (I prefer a die grinder with a metal burr). Add an extra twenty minutes of your time for installation and your ready to go.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:59 AM   #9
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Where's TomW? If memory serves (and kick me if I'm wrong), Tom ordered the Henschen axles but was a wee bit disappointed when he found out he had to drill the holes.

As for prices, as noted the quote price seems about "right" as do the follow on quotes for the Henschen axles... that is if the quote for the axle assembly. I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say "base axle." You may want to confirm what the vendor is shipping to you.
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63Silver....I say we have a axle changing party....we are going to be needing to change the ones on our 74 Argosy as well....
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Where's TomW? If memory serves (and kick me if I'm wrong), Tom ordered the Henschen axles but was a wee bit disappointed when he found out he had to drill the holes.

Airstream required Henschen to change the brackets for the 69 models and newer, which elevated the trailer one inch.

That then requires drilling at each end, 3 each 1/2 holes in the axle mounting bracket thru the axle mounting plate and installing grade 8 hardware, which is provided.

That suggestion comes from the engineers at Airstream and Henschen.

Or, you can go to the trouble of increasing the height of the axle mounting plate and drilling 2 each 5/8 holes, at each end.

The problem is that the 68 and older axle mounting plates are too short.

Everyone is advised of the drilling necessity, and no one has really complained, since to our knowledge, regardless of the axle brand, the drilling is still necessary.

The drilling saves a lot of headaches that you would have if you added to the axle mounting plate.

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I am replacing the axles on my 63 Ambassador and have been given a quote of $375.00 each for the complete axle (Dexter). I have also asked for a price on just the base axle. Does anyone have any idea if this is a reasonable price?

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Your old hub and drums, will not fit on a new axle.

The bearings are different sizes today.

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I'm not trying to create a conflict, Andy, but this is what Tom wrote:

"But I can not get over the fact that the original axle flanges were simple pieces of angle iron, and the axles most likely arrived at Airstream’s factory with 5/8 inch holes predrilled in the flanges. Since my Henschen axle was custom-built especially for my Overlander, with the amount of money I paid for the easy way, it does not seem to be asking that much to have the original style flanges with pre-drilled holes welded on to start with. And, while I’m wound up, the non-supplied mounting hardware was slated to be of the Ĺ inch variety whereas every single one of the holes on the new flanges was 5/8 inch or bigger. What would have been wrong with supplying the correct-size hardware?"

I wouldn't call this a complaint, more a suggestion for improving customer satisfaction. I think the point is that for pre-'69 coaches, there's a little more work involved... and this might have some bearing on the decision between Henschen and other brands. Of course, the willingness of a vendor to stand behind his or her product is also an important consideration. Whether someone is going to buy Henschen, Dexter or some other brand, it's important to have a vendor willing to make things right if necessary. I can't speak for others, but when I buy I'm thinking about more than just the lowest possible price.
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I'm not trying to create a conflict, Andy, but this is what Tom wrote:

"But I can not get over the fact that the original axle flanges were simple pieces of angle iron, and the axles most likely arrived at Airstream’s factory with 5/8 inch holes predrilled in the flanges. Since my Henschen axle was custom-built especially for my Overlander, with the amount of money I paid for the easy way, it does not seem to be asking that much to have the original style flanges with pre-drilled holes welded on to start with. And, while I’m wound up, the non-supplied mounting hardware was slated to be of the Ĺ inch variety whereas every single one of the holes on the new flanges was 5/8 inch or bigger. What would have been wrong with supplying the correct-size hardware?"
Rarely can someone at home drill 5/8 inch holes.

Many many people have 1/2 inch drill motors.

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I wouldn't call this a complaint, more a suggestion for improving customer satisfaction. I think the point is that for pre-'69 coaches, there's a little more work involved... and this might have some bearing on the decision between Henschen and other brands. Of course, the willingness of a vendor to stand behind his or her product is also an important consideration. Whether someone is going to buy Henschen, Dexter or some other brand, it's important to have a vendor willing to make things right if necessary. I can't speak for others, but when I buy I'm thinking about more than just the lowest possible price.
The bracket question has been reviewed many times, by Henschen, by Airstream and by us.

The answer always comes up the same. The bracket that was used from 1968 and older is obsolete., for a number of reasons, mainly because it lowered the trailer by one inch.

We inquired as to "what would it take" to once again have that bracket available for the 68 and older trailers.

The answer is that one out of about 10,000 axles would use that bracket. Therefore it is far from cost effective.

We asked "how about an additional charge" to have that bracket availble.
The answer from Airstream and Henschen was the same. That bracket is obsolete, and it will remain that way, since new special jigs would also have to be created, which would create a huge production line problem, in that now 2 lines would have to be used, not just one. Secondly, the cost effectiveness, would be huge production losses.

Sorry, but we don't make the axles.

We can only order what will work on someones trailer with a minimum of effort required on their behalf.

Henschen is still the only manufacturer that can supply a correct axle, without having any more than the trailer serial number. No one else can do that.

Not to many things that are 40 years old or older, have absolute "direct" replacement parts. Henschen comes about as close to it as possible, but in some circles, "no cigar."

Drilling the 6 holes per axle is far less of an inconvenience than having to engineer the entire axle and/or accept product with less than ideal specs, such as brake size, weight ratings and starting angles.

Of course there are always cheaper ways to do many things in our lifetimes.
The choice is always up to the individual, and for their personal reasons.

Most owners want their Airstream to be kept original or better, as in the case of advanced technology.

Some don't care at all.

We usually see those trailers on e-bay with careful photo's that don't show the "real" trailer. Then it becomes "buyer beware."

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