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Old 07-09-2016, 08:44 AM   #29
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The impact is most useful for taking the old bolts out, for putting the new ones in we just tightened them till they felt right and then checked them with a ratchet.


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Old 07-09-2016, 08:19 PM   #30
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Changing axles next week...

Dropped one axle today. Was pretty easy, with the exception of the bolts that attach behind the axle shock mounts. Not much space to get a socket in there with the water tank in place, so I dropped the tank as well. Was surprised to see there was nothing except the sheet metal wrap holding the tank up. Lots of funk in the metal pan, so it needed a good cleaning anyway. While I've got the pan dropped I'm thinking I'll go ahead a drill a few weep holes.

Also need to enlarge the notch for the axle tube by about 1/4 inch. Should not be too hard with a small cut off wheel.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:20 PM   #31
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Photos of the trailer with both axles swapped with the lift done. Also photos of the lift kit installed would be very helpful if you got any. Thinking of putting on lift when I swap my 23' axles. More room for boondocking.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:41 PM   #32
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This will be completely unhelpful but I pulled the shell, belly pan, rebuilt the frame, flipped the frame over, cut the old axles and springs and hardware off with a torch, welded on new plates, mounted dexter torsion axles and welded them on.

Only time I've replaced axles on anything. Don't recommend it and hope I never have to do it again...




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Old 07-09-2016, 10:59 PM   #33
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Photos of the trailer with both axles swapped with the lift done. Also photos of the lift kit installed would be very helpful if you got any. Thinking of putting on lift when I swap my 23' axles. More room for boondocking.
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I did something like that. Mine was a frame off so I was able to lower the wheel wells a couple inches (new ones were custom made by an HVAC guy), put torsion axle on at a tilt that gave me 2" and then went with larger tires to give me a total of 3". I've only had it out once but here are some pros and cons to consider:

Pros
easier to crawl under
easier for me to get at dump valves
won't drag in street/driveway dips/bumps (although it didn't before either)
3" less bending over for most things on the exterior

Cons?
Like you, I did this for boondocking but now that I've put so much time & $ into it, I'm not sure I want to drag it down gravel roads...especially after seeing a trailer where the tires spun and spitting gravel trashed the front.

Mine has a narrow & welded step into the main door. Now it really needs a second step but there isn't a good way to add one. I'll probably use one of those little steps that looks like a stool.

Would I do it again? Maybe but it's honestly not the slam dunk I thought it'd be.






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Old 07-10-2016, 09:08 PM   #34
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I meant to ask before if 32 degree axles should be at 32 degrees prior to install? Mine are closer to 28 degrees.
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:40 AM   #35
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Verified the mounting bracket of one axle is good and level this morning before measuring the angle of the arm. The arm is at 26 degrees, which seems a long way off from 32. This is unweighted.
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Photos of the trailer with both axles swapped with the lift done. Also photos of the lift kit installed would be very helpful if you got any. Thinking of putting on lift when I swap my 23' axles. More room for boondocking.
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Let the people rejoice! Both axles are on, road test went great, life is good! I wound up gaining about 6", including the lift kit and the dud-to-new axles. I shall fear no supermarket driveway again!

A wise person (J.Morgan) cautioned against the hollow plastic ramps. Attached pic shows what can happen to them! Fortunately, the Dept. of Redundancy Dept. had placed extra jack stands all over the place, so no harm was done.

I am in awe of Silver Hawk, who did this job by himself in 4 hrs! It took 1-3 guys the better part of two days, not including beer runs! At two trailers a day, Silver Hawk could set himself up in a fine retirement business!

As to the lift kit, it hides behind the frame, and uses the existing holes for attaching. The axles have holes on top of the mounts (mine were bolted to the pallet with them) that attach to the lift kit. As mentioned above, you might have to adjust the holes in the kit to get them to fit the frame. Mine were 3/8" off.

Thanks again to all that contributed their wisdom!
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:04 PM   #37
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Suzy, Looks good, it's a beautiful trailer. At least in the picture, it doesn't look ridiculously high or anything from all the lift. I think I'll be following suit on my trailer.

KY, what are you measuring the angle with?
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:59 PM   #38
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HiJoeSilver-- I just started a new thread on this issue called "Are axle down angles correct?"
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:22 PM   #39
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Your trailer looks awesome, and I love the way it sits.

Great job! (All around great job, I love it)

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Let the people rejoice! Both axles are on, road test went great, life is good! I wound up gaining about 6", including the lift kit and the dud-to-new axles. I shall fear no supermarket driveway again!



A wise person (J.Morgan) cautioned against the hollow plastic ramps. Attached pic shows what can happen to them! Fortunately, the Dept. of Redundancy Dept. had placed extra jack stands all over the place, so no harm was done.



I am in awe of Silver Hawk, who did this job by himself in 4 hrs! It took 1-3 guys the better part of two days, not including beer runs! At two trailers a day, Silver Hawk could set himself up in a fine retirement business!



As to the lift kit, it hides behind the frame, and uses the existing holes for attaching. The axles have holes on top of the mounts (mine were bolted to the pallet with them) that attach to the lift kit. As mentioned above, you might have to adjust the holes in the kit to get them to fit the frame. Mine were 3/8" off.



Thanks again to all that contributed their wisdom!




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Picture looks great. And I would think the lift would be less noticeable on a larger trailer. And smaller trailers would not need the lift because the over hang is less.

Good job no matter how long it took.

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How did you get ahold of Colin? I emailed him Monday and have not received a response. Should I call or is there a secret knock or password?
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Suzy!

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Your trailer looks great and I'd really like to get a lift kit under mine after looking at yours.

Just wondering, how did you make sure your axle alignment was good--or are the holes in the lift blocks precise enough you can't really bolt the axle in crooked?

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