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Old 05-25-2007, 07:38 PM   #1
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Bearing scare

Installed new bearings, races, & seals last year before trip to Salem and BC. They were SKF made by Timken in Mexico.

This week it was time to recheck & lube for summer trip. Started checking the outside bearings and found one pitted on 4-5 rollers. Started to blame SKF, Timken, & Mexico but, slowly it came back to me that my order had been messed up last year by Napa and I had settled for one China bearing to go with the complete change to SKF/Timken. Guess which one was pitted?

The China bearing of course.

The manager at my local Motion Industries, INC. says Chinese bearings do not conform to a certain gassing process followed by Timken & SKF and their steel uniformity suffers accordingly.

I replaced the one outside bearing, pulled one inside seal, inspected the SKF bearing which looked just fine and decided to put it back together and bet that the other three inside bearings are fine after only 6000 miles.

In the future, no chinese bearings for me.

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Old 05-25-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:27 AM   #3
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China is the new Japan. Remember when "made in Japan" was synonymous with cheap c***? Then they got going and revolutionized bicycles, motorcycles, & cars. Now everyone is saying how'd they do that? When China gets serious about R & D and quality control watch out!
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Old 05-26-2007, 06:34 AM   #4
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Excella CM,

I agree about the long term. But right now, American engineers don't speak chinese, chinese manuf processes are still behind, low cost is paramount to quality, and the result is that c*** happens. If it is a shirt, you throw it away but, if it is hardgoods, you end up like me, losing 1-2 days because someone else didn't do their job right.

When I am buying hardgoods, I preference Made in Japan if I can get it and then USA/Canada, and finally Europe. My new air compressor was from Italy and is a good looking piece of workmanship but, only time will tell.

Incidently, the Motion Industries manager said there is a lot of gray market bearings coming into the US. Only way to protect yourself is to buy through reputable suppliers. He specifically mentioned bearings from Argentina and China as the major sources. They will be in SKF boxes.
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:43 AM   #5
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yup, I'm waiting to see how happy folks are with their chinese goodyear marathons!They kinda bolt up to the bearings. DG

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Old 05-26-2007, 08:49 AM   #6
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Unfortunately we Americans will buy a ton of their cheap products before the quality improves as we did with the Japanese goods of the '60s. I remember walking into a 'discount' electronic store in the late 1950s and walking out shaking my head at all the cheap and weird sounding brands that I saw. Panasonic, Sony, Mitsubishi........

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Old 05-27-2007, 01:19 PM   #7
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...and don't forget Kipor generators, which are just as good as Honda or Yamaha, right?

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Old 10-25-2007, 05:11 PM   #8
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I was told recently by a plumber friend of mine ,after commenting on how all the boiler equipment we were installing was made in china , that anything we buy under $1000 in our beloved land will made in China.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:39 PM   #9
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Just keep going to Walmart folks.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:25 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
Just keep going to Walmart folks.

FYI from Bloomberg "Walmart is the 13th largest trading partner with China." And yes that is globally not just US company!!!
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:57 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by drag'nwagon
FYI from Bloomberg "Walmart is the 13th largest trading partner with China." And yes that is globally not just US company!!!
I remember when Sam Walton would showcase small US companies and sell their products at his Walmart stores to help them get going in the marketplace.

I guess when the 'old man' died, the company became exclusively profit driven and the result is the almost 100% Chinese junk being sold there, with a very few exceptions of course.

I personally won't shop at Walmart as both a political statement about how they treat their employees and as a protest to their overwhelming dependence on China as a trading partner.

Feel free to shop where you please, but keep in mind that every dollar you spend at Walmart goes DIRECTLY to the communist regime in China. Keep it up and soon, the US will be a mere financial shadow of it's former self!!

(rant over)

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