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Old 05-07-2004, 10:13 AM   #1
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Bad axles

A good example of bad axles is posted on e-bay, item # 2477514030.

It's a 1973 Excella.

Buyer, beware.

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Old 05-07-2004, 01:02 PM   #2
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Axles

That's my Excella 500 on Ebay.I just pulled it 175 miles with no problems.How can you tell if it has axle problems?
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Old 05-07-2004, 01:21 PM   #3
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I'll take a stab at it and say "because its riding low". the wheel well is covering the whole tire, right down to the rim. With a new(er) axle, the body typically rides up higher, and much more of the tire is visible.

take a look at andy's site, review the axle information page, and go out and take a look at those tortion arms. if they're pointing "up", its time to replace...
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Exactly.

Not a big secret, but unknown to many.

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It pulls great and nothing gets hot but I'm no expert.
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well, sure...you wouldn't feel any effect from inside your tow vehicle, but you would possibly if you were riding in the trailer. Ok..so you don't ride in the trailer...but the trailer rides on that suspension, and if there's no spring to it, its going to feel it eventually, in the form of a damaged frame and interior.

imagine taking the springs off your truck, and the banging it would take driving down the road.

saying "bad axles" is kind of misleading, too, if you're not familiar with this particular mechanism. the spring action comes from rubber tortion bars that are inside the axle tube, and can't be replaced by themselves. what's worn out is this rubber spring. the "axle"...the metal tube that runs from one side of the trailer to the other, is probably fine...the hubs and spindles could be fine, too. ("nothing gets hot") but since the worn out spring can't be replaced by itself, you have to replace the entire axle. hence "bad axles".
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It pulls great and nothing gets hot but I'm no expert.
I'm not an expert either. But from what I have read, coupled with an understandiing of what is involved, your Airstream is experiencing a much rougher ride anytime it is subjected to rough roads/pothholes.

Skipping details, the bottom line is that you may be subjecting the frame to shock it is not happy with. Keep it up long enough, and you or a potential buyer could develop cracks in the frame that will manifest itself in more severe problems.

Since your are selling it, it is not your problem. I only post this somewhat grim information for your benefit in case your potential buyer is a guest/member of this website.

Now you know, and you can deal accordingly with potential buyers.

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Mine were definitely shot. I built a ramp to back one set of wheels up on to get under and inspect them, and with the front wheels hanging in mid air, they never even dropped. The rubber in mine was definitely brittle. It would have rattled the trailer to pieces and destroyed all the interior work I have been working on.

Looks a bit like a low rider when they are bad.

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Further confirmation of bad axles....
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It would appear that item # 2478762239 has the same low rider problem.
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Replacing my axels

Great pic, Sneakinup. On our trip to CA and back last weekend we found the trailer was getting such a bouncy ride that we couldn't even keep the hangers on the rods in the closets, and the cusions get all tossed around. Plus the wheel rim is not visible at the top of the wheel well. But your picture pretty much describes what mine look like underneith. Not much down angle at all. I think I'll be ordering a new axel for it this week.

I'm going to scope out local shops to see if I can trust any of them to do the replacement for me, but I might just do it myself. Only question I have is once I get it jacked up, where could I put a couple jackstands (for safety) so I can get under it? I was thinking maybe a 4x4 across the underside at the jacking points would give me more options on where to put jackstands.
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Lightbulb Look at the torsion arms!

The photo of our wonderful Trade Wind, which we bought on ebay, led us to HOPE our axles were OK. (I believe I am attaching a photo, but I've never tried before so...)

But when we went to pick it up, I went underneath and the torsion arms were UP. When I tried to get the info off the plate attached to the axle, it couldn't even be read because the whole unit is pitted and rusty.

So it's at home in the yard, waiting for axles to arrive!

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Mine are angling down a bit, just a few degrees, but not much. It's that the rest of the ride is so rough on the trailer that bothers me. I think a new axel and shocks will at least give me piece of mind that I'm not pummling my trailer on every trip, or at least it will be the best ride I can give it.

I also had to spend some 'quality time' with a wire brush under the trailer working on the axel tag so I could read it.

I'm surprised your arms were up, since the wheel rims look good in the photo. I guess you just can't always tell from the angle of the picture.
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Stephanie.

We will provide the installation instructions when you call.

There are several ways to do it, depending on the tools and equipment that you have.

Please measure how far the "axle mounting plate" protrudes "below the frame."

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