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Old 02-05-2010, 03:39 PM   #15
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I don't know the answer to the price difference, but I am sure someone here does.

15 or so years ago, I had to order a replacement axle for a Casita TT. (also a rubber torsion axle). I just called Redneck Trailer Supply. They called Dexter and Dexter had all the info on file for my trailer to give me the correct Axle. In the case of an Airstream, I imagine Airstream's customer service would have all the axle data on file.

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Airstreams records for the specs of certain parts for the older trailers, is at this point, gone bye bye into history.

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Old 02-05-2010, 03:47 PM   #16
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how *much* more...affordable are the dexters than henchens? i would rater go with dexters but i dont know what measurements to give them when i order.
if you don't want to tackle this project on your own i recommend South Jersey RV. They were an Airstream dealer for years and now just do repairs. they installed an axle on my Trade Wind a couple of years ago. Excellent service.

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Old 02-05-2010, 03:49 PM   #17
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Everyone is always talking about axel replacement. I talk to a guy at an airstream service who said he had never, in 45 years, seen an axel fail except in the case of burnt bearings or a wreck. So whats up with this? He told me people were just selling axels. Is he wrong in spite of his experience? I'm confused
Each factory service department mechanic, has certain specialties.

Obviously, the one you chatted with, knows near "nothing" at least when it comes to torsion axles.

His name should be given to Dave Schumann, so that he can perhaps be updated, or at least taught about another Airstream essential part.

There is huge difference between selling axles, and educating owners about torsion axles.

Educating anyone that owns an Airstream product, most always, gives them greater assurance of what they really have, how to use and enjoy it, and how to take care of it.

Lube shops don't sell cars.

Airstream dealer parts departments, provide a service of having essential parts available, for the care and upkeep of their Airstream trailer or motorhome.

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Old 02-05-2010, 04:14 PM   #18
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The saleman who told ya that ya dont need axles is full of $%#^@&*(*& period. As has been said Jack up or pull the front axle onto 2x8's and see if the back axle arm stays at horizontal. If so thier shot. Mine stayed. I began seeing popped rivets in the outer skin and stuff moving about in transit. Then the comformation was when the all rivets sheared off and let the mirror on the back of the pocket door to the bath fall down and break.The fridge door kept opening and other things.
I called Andy at Inland,gave him my serial number and he arranged for me to pick up a pair at the factory on my truck. I did install them myself. They fit perfectly. First I wanted OEM Axles exactly like came with it new and I wanted to make sure there were no Slip-ups in measurments,because once you order from other company's, the axles are yours even if the measurements are incorrect. There is nothing wrong with AXIS or Dexter Axles but they do require that you do the measurements. I install my axles without a hitch,they fit perfectly,although you do pay for the convience of them fitting perfectly. NO cannot put regular car or box trailer axles on an Airstream,the frames are competely different.
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Thanks for all the good input. I was just a little confused. Did'nt mean to step on any toes . I want to fix up my AS the best I can but dont have money to spend that does'nt need spent. The test checking the travel of the axel makes sense, I will try it! Thanks again
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:31 PM   #20
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Thanks for all the good input. I was just a little confused. Did'nt mean to step on any toes . I want to fix up my AS the best I can but dont have money to spend that does'nt need spent. The test checking the travel of the axel makes sense, I will try it! Thanks again
Read the axle article in the Airstream Central portion of this Forums.

That will help you understand them, and how to check them out.

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Old 02-05-2010, 08:04 PM   #21
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Since Dexter is used by Airstream on the trailers, I guess they will fit and work well. Give Dexter a call and get the correct information you need. Many people have installed them and had no problem.

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Old 11-08-2010, 10:11 PM   #22
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Here's the deal:

If you are not that mechanically inclined, you call Inland Andy and give him the serial number of your trailer. He then gets you a new set of axles made by Henshen (the OEM maker of all the older ones) and they bolt right in. You will pay a little more for this convenience, but they are guaranteed to fit.

If you are tight for cash and pretty inclined in all things mechanically, then go to the Dexter website and see what dimensions they require to make you an axle. You will get it cheaper than Andy will give you, but if you mess up, it's your loss.

That being said, in general, here is what you want: You want the big axles with the big 12" brakes. But, you want to DERATE the rubber torsionrods to whatever the weight of your trailer is. So let's say you have a '77 Excella 500 31 footer and it weighs 7000lbs gross weight. OK, so you have two axles; 7000lbs divided by two equals 3500lbs per. Let's say you load her up pretty heavily....so add 200lbs to it. So now your gross weight is 7200lbs....that means 3600lbs per axle. You call up Dexter, tell them you want the heavy duty axles with the big 12" brakes, but derate the rubber rods to 3600lbs. You also need to give them accurate information on the bolt pattern of how the axle mounts.


Again, if you are not up to this, I recommend you call Inland Andy and he'll hook you up. True, you pay a little for his expertise, but that payment can go a long way.

But, if you can do all the important measurements yourself, you could save a little by ordering them directly from the manufacturer yourself.

Best of luck whichever way you go, and I hope to meet you on the road some day.
Jim I know this post is dated back to February so I was wondering are you sure Dexter will derate their axles as you suggested. I have a similar problem budget is a concern so buying Henschen axles may not be possible. But I don't want to go to 10 inch brakes. Infact I just want to buy a bare axle and transfer my backing plates to the axle. But I need a five bolt plate for my 12 inch brakes. I have heard that they will not derate axles but maybe I have heard wrong. I also wonder what they do to derate the axle I sure don't want a 4000lb axle on my 74 overlander it would really tear up things. Any way thanks inadvance for any input you or others can provide. One last thing I would kind of like to go with a 30 degree down angle don't know if Henschen axles have that option.
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I just ordered a new set of Henschen from Inland, and they will be set at 35 degrees. It is my understanding that this is the current "standard" setting.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:36 AM   #24
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just to de mystify somethings said here.

A 1962 Globetrotter only has one axle...
No one makes a 1962 replacement axle that just bolts in...
A utility trailer is not a travel trailer...
Henchen axles do not simply bolt on to all years. Thought they sure fit perfect on some...
Reading a tape measure is not rocket science...
The actual measurements are not all that different within the various eras...
If you measure correctly, and order correctly, and the size is wrong, you are not "stuck" with them.
Reading a tape measure is NOT rocket science...
Some axle dealers will say 10" today is as good as 12" in the day. 12" brakes today are better than 10" brakes today, and better is just better...
If you really want to stir things up on this Forum, mention axles...
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:40 PM   #25
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I just ordered a new set of Henschen from Inland, and they will be set at 35 degrees. It is my understanding that this is the current "standard" setting.
Say Aviator I see your trailer is a 1997 is that what you are getting your axles for? Seems kind of premature to need axles already. Did you choose to go complete with brakes and drums? That's good they are doing 30 degreese start angle that should get ground clearance up just a bit.

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Jim I know this post is dated back to February so I was wondering are you sure Dexter will derate their axles as you suggested. I have a similar problem budget is a concern so buying Henschen axles may not be possible. But I don't want to go to 10 inch brakes. Infact I just want to buy a bare axle and transfer my backing plates to the axle. But I need a five bolt plate for my 12 inch brakes. I have heard that they will not derate axles but maybe I have heard wrong. I also wonder what they do to derate the axle I sure don't want a 4000lb axle on my 74 overlander it would really tear up things. Any way thanks inadvance for any input you or others can provide. One last thing I would kind of like to go with a 30 degree down angle don't know if Henschen axles have that option.
This sounds very similar to what I was doing to my '74 Overlander this time last year. I too wanted "cheaper" than Henchsen. I went with Axis. So far I'm happy. They customer made everything to my spec. except for one thing. That one thing was the hole spacing on the mounting plate. Stock on a '74 is 9". The "industry standard" today is 8" and neither of the centers are exactly on the same center as the ol' Henschens. So, I had to do some not-so-fancy drilling / milling / grinding but eventually I was able to get the bolts in correctly and the axles have worked wonderfully for the last year. FYI on my axles: 3000lb cap. each, 22.5 degr. down, 5 bolt plate for 12" brakes which I swapped over from my old axles. I did all the work alone in my yard and/or driveway with common tools and a set of automotive ramps.
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just to de mystify somethings said here.

A 1962 Globetrotter only has one axle...
No one makes a 1962 replacement axle that just bolts in...
A utility trailer is not a travel trailer...
Henchen axles do not simply bolt on to all years. Thought they sure fit perfect on some...
Reading a tape measure is not rocket science...
The actual measurements are not all that different within the various eras...
If you measure correctly, and order correctly, and the size is wrong, you are not "stuck" with them.
Reading a tape measure is NOT rocket science...
Some axle dealers will say 10" today is as good as 12" in the day. 12" brakes today are better than 10" brakes today, and better is just better...
If you really want to stir things up on this Forum, mention axles...
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I'm very happy with my Dexters from Redneck Trailer Supply here in Colorado. Total cost for the 2 EZ-lube axles with 10" brakes was around $800, and about a days work was needed to swap them. I tow with a 3/4 ton Suburban with a beefy transmission and big brakes, and feel very safe and secure with this set-up. I suppose if your tow vehicle was less substantial the importance of having the bigger 12" brakes in the trailer might be greater. Modern Airstreams of similar weights to my 72 Overlander come with Dexter 10" axles, just fyi. Do the research and then upgrade your older AS with new axles, you'll be glad you did. -tim
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