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Old 12-01-2006, 08:19 PM   #1
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Axle Upgrade on 16' CCD

This is a new thread but an ongoing topic on upgrading axles on newer model Airstreams

I have a 2005 16' CCD which would be better for my purposes if it had more load capacity and a safety margin cusion. Would like to not feel like I have to weigh everything I put into it. I carry the generator and cast iron pots in the truck, so I'm just talking about some food, clothes, books, and maybe a 2nd battery. Contacted Airstream, and they were great with providing info. Here's what I learned:

1) Trailer can be upgraded to 4300 (up from 3500). Requires new axle assembly, and 15" wheels and suitable tires. Other capacities are also possible.
2) Expect it to ride a little rougher and sit a little higher
3) Will void remaining warranty (not an issue for mine, I'm off warranty)
4) Schedule appointment 6 to 8 weeks ahead - work would be done at Jackson Center service department
5) Plan for them to have trailer for 2 days - will assess time when they start on unit
6) Cost a little under $2000, labor included.

I will probably do this if I can get a week off next spring (I live in Utah). I like the idea of the factory doing the work, don't know any outfits around here who do much of this kind. I wish A/S had an option to buy it like this in the first place and would rather not have to spend the extra now, but, Oh, well! If I'm going to spend it, I want to have confidence it is done right.

Hope this info is of use to others who have talked about this - and as always I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this mod!

Travel safe
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:26 PM   #2
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This is a new thread but an ongoing topic on upgrading axles on newer model Airstreams

I have a 2005 16' CCD which would be better for my purposes if it had more load capacity and a safety margin cusion. Would like to not feel like I have to weigh everything I put into it. I carry the generator and cast iron pots in the truck, so I'm just talking about some food, clothes, books, and maybe a 2nd battery. Contacted Airstream, and they were great with providing info. Here's what I learned:

1) Trailer can be upgraded to 4300 (up from 3500). Requires new axle assembly, and 15" wheels and suitable tires. Other capacities are also possible.
2) Expect it to ride a little rougher and sit a little higher
3) Will void remaining warranty (not an issue for mine, I'm off warranty)
4) Schedule appointment 6 to 8 weeks ahead - work would be done at Jackson Center service department
5) Plan for them to have trailer for 2 days - will assess time when they start on unit
6) Cost a little under $2000, labor included.

I will probably do this if I can get a week off next spring (I live in Utah). I like the idea of the factory doing the work, don't know any outfits around here who do much of this kind. I wish A/S had an option to buy it like this in the first place and would rather not have to spend the extra now, but, Oh, well! If I'm going to spend it, I want to have confidence it is done right.

Hope this info is of use to others who have talked about this - and as always I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this mod!

Travel safe
Bob
Bob.

You can change the axle out yourself, and save the trip to Jackson Center.

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Old 12-01-2006, 09:21 PM   #3
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a lot of dealers can do this upgrade.

inland andy has suggested several times, in several threads, home mechanics can too...

folks who might be interested in your update, may not see your post....

while they may be following any of these threads...

and would automatically see your update/info, if it were there...

http://www.airforums.com/forum...vwr-28020.html

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ts-25040.html?

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ks-27798.html?

or any of the other threads on uprating axles on a 16 foot trailer.

if you aren't comfortable doing the work (and sure wouldn't) yourself,

david tidmore at the weatherford dealer sure is and texas is much closer to you than ohio.

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Old 12-01-2006, 09:32 PM   #4
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2air:
Thanks for the reply & the links - those are what motivated me to contact A/S.

Do you know, is wheel alignment an issue with an axle change? I was imagining some adjustment and equipment to address this - but is it really just 'bolt & play'? That would lessen my concern over having a local shop do the job.

I'm not able now to do this myself - needed to do it 5 years earlier. It's a problem with my neck, and not worth the risk for me to try this.

I appreciate the reference to texas - I will put that on my list of alternatives. I am an Ohio native, and have a related motive to visit my home state for the first time in mnay years - kind of looking for a reason....

Thanks
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Bob, this may be a stupid question, but where in a 16' unit can you place that many things that would need an axle upgrade? Just curious.
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the axle units are pre aligned, i believe that's the term.

so plug and play is what i've read...once ya get it OFF the ground.

pretty sure someone has posted pics of the swap here 2...

the factory is a fun place to visit and they do great work...

but the texas spot has some other amazing upgrades and extras for your trailer....

and it is hard to match their enthusiasm for airstreams or airsteamers...

utah 2 ohio...not till may, but going to texas could happen any day...weatherwise

oh, i mean weatherford....

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Not a stupid question, let me tell you what I did. There's a sticker on the closet door, that lists the weights with the 'optional' equipment, then subtracts weight for propane and water (storage tank and heater), then leaves me a few hundred pounds for my stuff (I can get a little more if I cut back on the water). So, I took everything out, and then weighed each item as it went back in. Coleman stove & lantern, some fishing stuff, few pots and pans, small stack of books & mags - you know just the 'stuff' you'd take along. No clothes or food yet, just some stuff. I'll tell you, it didn't take long to gobble up a couple hundred pounts...truly amazing how it all adds up, when you weigh everything! And I'll tell you, the storage in the rear not anywhere near full, almost nothing in the overhead lockers, fridge still empty...

Try weighing everything - learned this from my back packing days. The stuff just adds up! An axle upgrade would just add to my enjoyment, not having to weigh everything that goes in. Got the darned thing to enjoy myself
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2air:
Thanks for the reply & the links - those are what motivated me to contact A/S.

Do you know, is wheel alignment an issue with an axle change? I was imagining some adjustment and equipment to address this - but is it really just 'bolt & play'? That would lessen my concern over having a local shop do the job.

I'm not able now to do this myself - needed to do it 5 years earlier. It's a problem with my neck, and not worth the risk for me to try this.

I appreciate the reference to texas - I will put that on my list of alternatives. I am an Ohio native, and have a related motive to visit my home state for the first time in mnay years - kind of looking for a reason....

Thanks
Bob
The frame of the trailer has notches - I found this out when I did mine. The new axle goes in these notches and so is pre-engineered to be in alignment. There is no wiggle room - it fits just right.

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....where in a 16' unit can you place that many things that would need an axle upgrade? Just curious.
Don't know if this will answer it all but Airstream has been shaving it close and making a few models with empty curb weight relatively close to GAWR. This is a quick take without a lot of careful checking, but the result is that the payload capacity of the trailer is what is offset by the hitch weight. See: http://www.airforums.com/forum...hts-25040.html and http://www.airforums.com/forum...vwr-28020.html and http://www.airforums.com/forum...-ls-27795.html

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