Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-29-2015, 12:44 PM   #1
GlamperGirl
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 377
Images: 15
Blog Entries: 1
Axle Panic - Need Advice - '65 Globetrotter

I ordered a new axle and it won't fit under frame properly without having to notch it out according to my installer. I ordered the correct axle according to the Vendor, but I got the "we sell it but we are not in the business of teaching shops how to install axles or other items for that matter" line when I contacted them about this issue.

Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1422556988.576588.jpg
Views:	195
Size:	264.5 KB
ID:	231338Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1422556998.427442.jpg
Views:	174
Size:	273.6 KB
ID:	231339
Anyone with ideas on their axle install?

You can see the oblong hole in the axle bracket that doesn't have enough real estate to bolt through the trailer frame.

That is as high as it will go without not notching out the lower portion of the inside bottom of the frame.
__________________

__________________
thumbelinadj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 02:43 PM   #2
Moderator
 
Kevin245's Avatar

 
Vintage Kin Owner
... , ...
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 9,390
Images: 9
Hang in there. We have some very knowledgeable members here who should be able to advise you.
__________________

__________________

"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do."

Eleanor Roosevelt

Kevin245 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 03:01 PM   #3
GlamperGirl
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 377
Images: 15
Blog Entries: 1
You're a gem
__________________
thumbelinadj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 03:25 PM   #4
Moderator
 
HiHoAgRV's Avatar

 
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,326
Images: 29
Blog Entries: 49
Dont notch the frame!

Here is a solution since its already at the welders:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ml#post1441335

and a follow up

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ml#post1451932
__________________
Hi Ho Silver RV! Vernon, Sarah, Mac the Border Collie -
A honkin' long 34' named AlumaTherapy http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...num-54749.html
and a 26' '63 Overlander, Dolly http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ome-71609.html
HiHoAgRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 03:31 PM   #5
Regular Guy
 
NavyCorpsman's Avatar
 
1978 31' Sovereign
Hot Springs , Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 572
A reputable welder in your area can extend whatever is needed so that it will work safely. From the pic it looks like the track width is correct, and that the mounting flange abbuts the inside frame chanel. If that wasn't the case I would have the vendor re-double check the fitment. Should take about 5-6 hours to do both sides from what I see.
Hope it is easier than you expected. Nice GT too.
Clayton
__________________
NavyCorpsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 04:02 PM   #6
4 Rivet Member
 
Cochese's Avatar
 
1965 26' Overlander
Tulsa , Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 352
I had a similar prob w/ my 65 overlander . I was told by the vendor to notch the mounting flange on frame, in my case about 3/4" upwards to bottom of frame. This made sense b/ c original axle didn't rest on bottom of frame, rather the weight of trailer was supported by the axle bolts!
So , I notched the frame plates& axle went in,BUT.... The trailer say lower than before the axles swap! This was a major PITA to remedy. I had to make extension plates & hire a welder, etc. Apperently, 65s were a transition year. Nothing like having to do the job twice! Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1422568950.739001.jpg
Views:	139
Size:	60.4 KB
ID:	231343


Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
__________________
Cochese is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 07:35 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
dbj216's Avatar

 
1986 34' Limited
1966 24' Tradewind
Conifer , Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,124
Not to panic. Be cool, calm, relaxed. We have all had modifications to do to the frame and or axle brackets to get the new ones to fit up. I used Axis axles on my 66 Trade Wind. I had to deepen the notch and drill new holes. At least no welding. But welding is a basic process that a lot of folks can do. I think it is important that the axle bracket rests on the frame rail. The bolts just keep the axle tight to the frame in case your Airstream starts to fly or something. And it's important the shock mount bracket and bolt allow shock assembly and removal with the axle bolted up.

Here is what I had to do on my Trade Wind. I made a template and started grinding away. You can see sparks in my photo! Nose to the grindstone. My trailer also got about 3/4" lower, but the new axle recovered most of this ride height loss. I used 22 degree starting angle like the original. I think I would have prefered something a little higher had i known I needed this modification. But I knew I didn't want 32 degrees. That's too high for me. I didn't want to use a step ladder to get into my Trade Wind!

David
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1406 Axle Template.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	248.4 KB
ID:	231361   Click image for larger version

Name:	1406 Axles Both Mounted.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	274.5 KB
ID:	231362  

__________________
dbj216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 07:59 PM   #8
4 Rivet Member
 
Cochese's Avatar
 
1965 26' Overlander
Tulsa , Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 352
I also used a 22.5 axis axle, but the trailer was almost an inch & half lower! A 26' A /S can become a real tail dragger if it sits too low! Now I almost forgotten about having to do the axle job twice ! Just remember , restoring an Airstream is a hobby!


Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
__________________
Cochese is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2015, 08:01 PM   #9
GlamperGirl
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 377
Images: 15
Blog Entries: 1
It's a hobby. It's a hobby. It's a hobby. Ok. I think I have three good ideas. Will be at the shop checking it out tomorrow. Too bad I didn't know better. But not I can write a lesson up for someone else. I had the welder her all last week and could have done that work less expensively. Love you airstream Angels. Dena
__________________
thumbelinadj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2015, 07:32 PM   #10
GlamperGirl
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 377
Images: 15
Blog Entries: 1
Axle is great. Work was superb by my GREAT technician. Still irritated the vendor told me in email to go find someone else because she thought from one five minute phone call the company was not going to work. I'm getting lots of private messages on the poor service from the axle provider. With that said this thread is done. Thanks all for the awesome support.
__________________
thumbelinadj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2015, 08:05 PM   #11
Moderator
 
Kevin245's Avatar

 
Vintage Kin Owner
... , ...
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 9,390
Images: 9
Glad to hear that things ended well DJ.
__________________

"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do."

Eleanor Roosevelt

Kevin245 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2015, 08:39 AM   #12
Regular Guy
 
NavyCorpsman's Avatar
 
1978 31' Sovereign
Hot Springs , Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 572
Awesome. So what was the fix? I have to replace my 2 axles, who is this vendor that I should avoid? PM if you care to.
Thanks
Clayton
__________________
NavyCorpsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2015, 12:42 PM   #13
GlamperGirl
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 377
Images: 15
Blog Entries: 1
The fix was several things. Not to mention correct bolts. Removing a welded part on the frame that blocked the motion of the shock. Adding a plate to bolt it on. I'll get photos after I recover from watching the Seahawks win the Super Bowl today
__________________
thumbelinadj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2015, 12:52 PM   #14
Moderator
 
Stefrobrts's Avatar

 
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,906
Images: 50
Blog Entries: 1
Glad to hear it all worked out. I remember replacing my axle was a pretty stressful time (and I had a shop do it), but the good news is that for the last ten years I haven't had to think about it at all Check that one off your list and move on!
__________________

__________________
Stephanie




Stefrobrts is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Panic is setting in.... arktos55343 Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 255 07-20-2017 01:01 AM
Can't find covered storage in Denver ~ Starting to panic Travel Bird Winterizing, Storage, Carports & Covers 21 10-10-2012 06:15 PM
1985 Excella/Sovereign PANIC! wpmartin 1984 -1986 Excella 16 04-02-2006 07:42 PM
Panic! Can we polish this?????? a-wanabbee Cleaning, Stripping & Polishing 7 03-20-2006 03:08 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.