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Old 01-30-2007, 08:55 AM   #1
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Axle Measurement Data Base

Hi all;

We are now on our 4th Airstream - not sure if the 99 Excella counts but what the heck.

The key restoration element we have learned is AXLE makes you sound (of course along with a sturdy frame and matching and balanced running gear) But it all starts with the Axle.

Over the past four years the next big observation is that there is not a general Airstreamer Data Base for Axles.

There of course is Andy and the OEM's Henchiens opps how do you spell that.

And there are dexters supplied by all sorts of people in the RV and Vehicle trades - or just the Axle Trade period.

And then came along Axis who also make Axles.

But there is only one data base available and we know where that is and that it is not going to be public. To the new people here that buy their diamond in the rough that they have just found and dragged out of a field of 40 years of nature how can we find this information more efficiently.

So we all start the same process - what is it again we are looking for - degrees what did you say, measure where from what.....and for those who get the measureing tape a little cocked end up with a pretty good shock - and I am not talking about the infamouse Airstream Shocks and their shock mounting plates either - I'm talking the commerce shock.

So How about it folks - we have an inspector thread, we have the ability to create surveys - the database of pictures and people in this forum is invaluable - it is PUBLIC and it is FREE!

I can offer up 3 measurements. But I need help from someone so that we can be consistent in what we are measuring how and from where.
I can offer up:
1999 Excella 28' 1000
1969 Globe Trotter 21' (but not for long as she is sold)
1961 Overlander 26' (Leaf Spring System)

But what I am looking for which it would have been great to go to a database to look up is the 1963 Globe Trotter 19'.

Then I could order my axle from whom ever I choose - pick it up arrive at the location and change out the axle along with the wheels and tires.

I listened to the nightmare on the VAP with having some real issues with picking up older trailers and I just don't want to go there. Renting a Flat bed and the hassles of taking it out of the "Country" is more complicated than purchasing an axle and installing it before we come home.

So one - can anyone help me with the measurement for the 63 Globe Trotter and two....

Lets start a Forums Axle Data Base

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Old 01-30-2007, 09:16 AM   #2
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Excellent Notion

Sounds like a good idea to me. I'll give the measurements off my '77 Excella 500.

They "should" group into families. It'd be interesting to see how they actually do.

I think I already measured mine and have them in AutoCAD somewhere. Anyway, if you start a database, I'll contribute what I can.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:12 AM   #3
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I am a few weeks or more from pulling out the axles on my 1970 31'. I would be glad to supply any numbers that would help. I have not really looked that close at them but at that age it's a sure thing I will need them. Thanks for the good idea. Dave
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I have a thought and may be it does not involve reinventing anything. This site contains the AIRSTREAM TRAILER FORUMs and subforums by model. If we wanted we could put data in the sub-forum as we got it by model and it would be there for all to see.

So not only would axle data be there we could put all kinds of data there too.

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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sharon,

What a splendid idea!!!!!

Hats off to you girl!!!

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Old 01-30-2007, 07:06 PM   #6
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Fantastic! We are also about 1 month away from replacing axles on our 74 26' Argosy. Just need to know specific specs for measurements.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:30 PM   #7
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....What a splendid idea!!!!!....
Thanks Henry - you women rule right.....but we do need your help though

Actions idea of using the trailer forums is a good one - but what we need is a consistent form so that each of us could post the measurement in the same manner - and what are the measurements.

I have the order form from Axis but I don't know if that is what we need.

I know too that say my 63's axle could be very different to anothers.

Thus what about just the frame measurements of where the axle would be mounted?

There are also options that people have as their own preference that you would not want muddying the waters - so we would have to look at the basic replacement - and then state all the extras after - like people who bump up the angle degree and the weight and the type of mounting hardware such as nickle, galvinized powder coating and the list I am sure is long. As well the brakes, hubs, drums they would all come into play.

But if each year and model had the basic listing to start from then that would be perfect.

By using the trailer forum - that would mean there would be a thread started in each section - and then people would start chatting in each of the threads like we do already and it would end up being so bulky - unlike people submitting to one thread and someone charting the information on a spread sheet and then offer is as a pdf link being updated monthly or something - somewhat like the Inspectors document. I would offer to help somehow.

Hopefully the fellow will be able to measure for us in the right place - or we may have to travel on the Sat do our own measurements put the order in and hope we can get a quick turn around from Axis. In the meantime I have to do some research here to find out if someone has in their possesion a 63 Globe Trotter with the Douro Torque axle installed.

Henry there is a nice 55 hanging out in the mud in South California on e-bay right now - Whale Tale!!!!! not in bad shape for a 55 sitting in the mud for 20 years.....or was that you who snapped up that little 65 for a buy it now of $2500.00 down in Cape Cod?

Wathca doing with yourself?

To all you other fellows hang in there - soon we will figure out what route to take and then we will do a call for input....toss in any ideas on how to administer this...as you think of them
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Thanks Henry - you women rule right.....but we do need your help though
Sorry Henry you just got me so excited with your compliment...I meant You Know Women Rule Right?

I don't want anyone to think that you might be a Henrietta so when I read my post again later I had to laugh - spelling is always bad but missed words sometimes can make for a real spoof.
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I'm hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry Henry you just got me so excited with your compliment...I meant You Know Women Rule Right?

I don't want anyone to think that you might be a Henrietta so when I read my post again later I had to laugh - spelling is always bad but missed words sometimes can make for a real spoof.
Sharon,

Lets see if I’m getting this right - first I was an Axle Fairy and now a possible Henrietta . Are you trying to tell me something???????? Just kidding. Let me set the record straight – Sharon Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, of all of the customers that I met supplying Airstream replacement axles at Axis Products, you were truly one of my favorites (perhaps I’m not supposed to have favorites – oop’s) and I like you. You always shoot from the hip and I never had to guess what was on your mind. I stay up with your posts here on the forums and I think others would agree – you say what you think. This is a cool characteristic – to me.

Again seriously – I will help you with your (the) axle database however I can. I applaud the idea and your efforts for starting such a thing. Simply let me know what you need!

Again seriously (perhaps) WOMEN RULE!!!!!! Hopefully this will help dissipate the Axle Fairy and Henrietta myths that seem to be floating about.

You and Peter are top shelf in my book – let me know how to help!!

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Henry my dear fellow - you will probably be surprised but I am

....speachles....
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What????

Sharon,

I can't believe speachless!

How is this Database progressing?

Please inform,
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Well ahh I got busy playing in the boys yard

But I guess I better get my "secretarial" duties back on.

I think the best way - is just to keep this thread going - when and if anyone changes out their axle - and if they are not changing from the original set up they can post it here - I could keep tabs on it and make up some sort of spread sheet. And post what I have at the end of each month.

By the time I am ready to retire - we might just have a sizeable data base..
What do you think?
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Great idea! I will be replacing my 62 Bambi axle soon, will submit measurments.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:51 PM   #14
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My exact Dexter order for 62 Bambi:
#10 torsion axle, down-rated to 2800#
Straight beam (with standard toe and camber bends)
74" Hub-face to Hub-face
58" Outside Frame width
Reverse orientation
Side mount hangars
25 deg. down
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