Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-05-2012, 08:44 AM   #85
Rivet Master
 
Steve Bryant's Avatar

 
1991 34' Limited
Wichita , Kansas
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 736
Images: 7
Ganglin and Top,
Thanks so very much for this helpful information. I've talked to Colin Hyde about the Al-Ko axles and various options and I've bought stuff from Redneck a couple of times here locally. I'll look into all options before I buy, but this is great. The Rockwell American axle information on the web is very good and shows the 32 degree down option.

In my former life as a tractor-trailer mechanic, we converted all of our trucks with conventional greased bearings to oilers and that was 40 years ago! I can't believe that you can only get oiler options on axles for about 7,000 pound ratings and up for light trailers in this day and age.

All my best,

Steve
__________________

__________________
Steve Bryant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 09:05 AM   #86
4 Rivet Member
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 470
Top, that is great info. Thanks,
__________________

__________________
M2HB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 09:09 AM   #87
4 Rivet Member
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 470
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bryant View Post
Ganglin and Top,
Thanks so very much for this helpful information. I've talked to Colin Hyde about the Al-Ko axles and various options and I've bought stuff from Redneck a couple of times here locally. I'll look into all options before I buy, but this is great. The Rockwell American axle information on the web is very good and shows the 32 degree down option.

In my former life as a tractor-trailer mechanic, we converted all of our trucks with conventional greased bearings to oilers and that was 40 years ago! I can't believe that you can only get oiler options on axles for about 7,000 pound ratings and up for light trailers in this day and age.

All my best,

Steve
Some of the Axle Manufacturers start offering the Oil Bearing setup on 8,000# axles and above. I know that is what Hayes used to do. The problem with the oil bearings (it is better) is that the cap is plastic and they are about $25 each. In the AZ heat, you will be changing them every 5 years or so. If someone steps on them to get onto a trailer, they will break. They aren't like the heavy duty steel or aluminum caps that the big rigs have. If one breaks from the heat, or someone stepping on them while you are on the road, it is a real hassle.
__________________
M2HB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 06:03 PM   #88
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bryant View Post
I can't believe that you can only get oiler options on axles for about 7,000 pound ratings and up for light trailers in this day and age.
That is mainly because they have to be designed for the lowest common denominator, which in this case would be non-professionals towing for pleasure. While Airstreamers don't generally fall into this category, I have seen people that will tow trailers for 10+ years with zero maintenance, sometimes for several years without even any dust caps on the hubs, and act surprised when something disintegrates from neglect.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 06:55 PM   #89
Rivet Master
 
Steve Bryant's Avatar

 
1991 34' Limited
Wichita , Kansas
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 736
Images: 7
Terry, I understand your point. People who don't maintain or worse abuse equipment rate pretty low in my book.

My dad started out life as a mechanic and taught heavy vehicle engine/drivetrain overhaul in the army during WWII. He brought me up with a wrench in one hand and a grease gun in the other (when I wasn't cleaning the shop). I knew the words preventive maintainence before the age of ten.
__________________
Steve Bryant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 05:01 AM   #90
3 Rivet Member
 
1976 31' Sovereign
Springfield , South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 233
Terry, you sure are right on folks not knowing/caring. Then there is the industry with some designs like no grease fittings on front suspension of Dodge Durango. I just replaced my complete front end with Moog and now I have grease fittings everywhere.
Another is the sealed front bearings. I have taken out two on the Durango because they cannot be greased ! ! ! ! It has 217K on it now and I will run it 300K min.

It came with a big oversize tranny with the trailer towing kit but I don't hook the AS to it, just 6X10 cargo trailer or other trails with a GVW of 3500 or so. The 2500HD is a different animal all together and will stay with it though I wish it were a crew or extended cab.
__________________
Hummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2012, 11:10 PM   #91
4 Rivet Member
 
DryFly's Avatar
 
1972 Argosy 20
Snoqualmie , Washington
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 411
So I have a 1972 Argosy 20' that has the trailing arm at 0* when wet. But, I've got popped rivets on my pan, lots of them. When I jack up the trailer, the tires drop about 2" before they lift off the ground. I need to figure this out before I feel comfortable towing it. More information, the trailer sat garaged for 12 years before I purchased it. Is there a reliable way to test the axle to determine if it needs replacing.
Right now I'm thinking I need new axles. What do you think?
__________________
DryFly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2012, 06:43 AM   #92
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar

 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,655
Images: 2
I just found this thread. Thanks for starting it, Terry and for crawling under the trailers to take pictures.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2012, 06:45 PM   #93
4 Rivet Member
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Phoenix , Arizona
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 470
Quote:
Originally Posted by DryFly View Post
So I have a 1972 Argosy 20' that has the trailing arm at 0* when wet. But, I've got popped rivets on my pan, lots of them. When I jack up the trailer, the tires drop about 2" before they lift off the ground. I need to figure this out before I feel comfortable towing it. More information, the trailer sat garaged for 12 years before I purchased it. Is there a reliable way to test the axle to determine if it needs replacing.
Right now I'm thinking I need new axles. What do you think?
If those are the original axles, I would change them even if they appear to be fine. I can't imagine that the rubber would be good, or would last much longer if it is 40 years old.
__________________

__________________
M2HB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.