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Old 09-09-2008, 11:17 PM   #1
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Axle alignment in Oregon

Andy, do you know someone in the Portland, Oregon area that will do the job of aligning the wheels on an Airstream properly at a reasonable price. I have a right rear tire that is wearing on the outside and am having a hard time finding anyone to do the work. Jim Casey
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Andy, do you know someone in the Portland, Oregon area that will do the job of aligning the wheels on an Airstream properly at a reasonable price. I have a right rear tire that is wearing on the outside and am having a hard time finding anyone to do the work. Jim Casey
I am not aware of anyone near you.

You can try truck tire centers.

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Hi Jim,

Check this thread for the only place I know:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...gon-37809.html

It was split off another thread by the moderator as I recall. By the way, the trailer is riding high and well and the tires are showing no problems so far.

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Wheel alignment

Thanks, Walt. Andy seemed to thinks the job was overpriced but it is hard to be picky about price if you can't find anyone else to do the job. I'll have to pay the piper, I guess. Jim
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Thanks, Walt. Andy seemed to thinks the job was overpriced but it is hard to be picky about price if you can't find anyone else to do the job. I'll have to pay the piper, I guess. Jim
Please read the comments I made as high lighted above.

Above everything else, it is not necessary to remove axles to align them, if you have the proper equipment, etc, etc.

I would suggest that you stand by your trailer while they are working on it.

I do not know who that shop is, but I do know Airstreams, and that fellow got ripped off, as I out lined.

To check the alignment, all you need is a ruler.

Make sure the tires are not twisted, as in a turn.

Measure the distance between the widest part of the tire, and the axle mounting plate. Do that for the front of the tire and the rear, of the same tire

Subtract the front dimension from the rear dimension. That tells you the tow-in. The front dimension should be about 1/8 inch less than the rear dimension.

Do that for each tire. If that checks out then more than liklely you have a balance problem, and not an alignment problem.

You can also check the camber by making sure that the lower part of the tire, is a little more inboard, than the top part of the tire.

Alignment shops love to take advantage of people, since they figure that very few people know how to check alignment and how to correct it, if it's off.

The above simple measurements will clue you in as to what problem you may, or may not have, with alignment.

When Airstream factory checks the aligment, they use a big gauge that doesn't do any more than what listed above.

The Henschen alignment specs are as follows.

Tow in equals 1/16 inch, plus or minus 1/16 inch.

Camber is 3/4 of a degree, plus or minus 3/4 of a degree.

Hope this helps those that feel that the trailer has an alignment problem.

Bets are still on, almost all owners will find that the vast majority of funny tire wear, is lack of proper running gear balance and/or bad shocks, and "not" alignment.

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I would suggest that you stand by your trailer while they are working on it.


Good luck with that happening. 99% of shops are not going to allow customers in the service bays while work is going on because of insurance liabilities.
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Hi Jim,

There was a $255 piece (I think that's the relevant part of the bill) of the work on mine that may not apply regarding yours. The shop has and used their capability to take out an abnormal (From a pot hole or something like that) bend in one of my axels. The axels are supposed to have a certain bend but mine was abnornal. I should have made that clearer in the thread, but the negative, piling-on response turned me off, so I dropped it.

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Look for a Truck Axle Shop. The axles have to be bent to realign them and any truck axle shop will have the equipment to do this. Ask if they have ever done an Airstream. I had my trailer done when I bought it and again 11 years later when I installed new axles. If I remember right the last time was about $290.00 for 3 axles, but once done right you are home free.

A quick check is to set an 8 ft. florescent light bulb across the center line of the tires and you can quickly see any misalignment between the tires and the bulb.
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I tried to find truck shops around the area that would take on the job. I called three of them, but all of them said they would not do the job. Also tried several alignment shops in the Portland area. Several just turned me down. Others wanted me to bring the AS by and let them look at it. I figure if they haven't ever seen the suspension system on an airstream before, I don't want them to start on mine. As it now stands, I have an appointment with the same shop that did the work on Walt's. I don't know if they will let me stand by and watch them work or not. Most won't. I just want the job done and done properly. Would really be a bonus if I got a fair price. jim
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I tried to find truck shops around the area that would take on the job. I called three of them, but all of them said they would not do the job. Also tried several alignment shops in the Portland area. Several just turned me down. Others wanted me to bring the AS by and let them look at it. I figure if they haven't ever seen the suspension system on an airstream before, I don't want them to start on mine. As it now stands, I have an appointment with the same shop that did the work on Walt's. I don't know if they will let me stand by and watch them work or not. Most won't. I just want the job done and done properly. Would really be a bonus if I got a fair price. jim
Before you decide to go to any shop, how about posting the measurements as outlined above.

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Andy, do you know someone in the Portland, Oregon area that will do the job of aligning the wheels on an Airstream properly at a reasonable price. I have a right rear tire that is wearing on the outside and am having a hard time finding anyone to do the work. Jim Casey
Hi, did you ask George Sutton, the only Oregon Airstream dealer, if they do alignments or if they have a shop that they use to do it for them? Or the Seattle, Wa. dealer if they are closer to you?
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Has anyone watched them align an axle? Just what do they do, or what do they adjust, or what do they bend would be more accurate, since there really is no adjustment?

I need an axle aligned but can't find anyone closer than Dallas (300 miles) to do it.
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....I have an appointment with the same shop that did the work on Walt's. ..... jim
Hi Jim,

If you would load a scan of your invoice like I did in the thread last November, I'd be interested to see how they're billing now and I think others would be interested to see what this kind of work costs.

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Has anyone watched them align an axle? Just what do they do, or what do they adjust, or what do they bend would be more accurate, since there really is no adjustment?

I need an axle aligned but can't find anyone closer than Dallas (300 miles) to do it.
WE took our 25' CCD to Jackson Center this past June and had them align the axles. The curb side rear looked almost like new but the curbside front tire was almost worn out at 10,000 miles. The guy that did the work, Bill I think, took 2 1/2 hours to do the work and it costs $222.50. He previously worked for 20 years at Henschen building them; now works at Airstream. He used a camber guage and string lines to measure the actual alignment for camber and toe-in (0 to 1-1/2 degrees camber, 0 to 1/8 " toe-in). The actual alignment was done with heavy timbers, chains wood blocks and a hydraulic jack that he manipulated under, in front of and behind the axles under the trailer to bend then to the proper settings, much like aligning the old solid truck axles. Gave me a table to the before and after alignment settings; well worth the costs. He was a craftsman at his trade that is not typical in today's mechanical industry.

In terms of Airstream approved locations, there was a list in one of the latest Blue Beret on the Airstream dealers and repairs shops with the skills and equipment to do it. I'll look later tonight and post then.
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