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Old 09-16-2008, 11:36 PM   #15
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Axle alignment

Andy, I would love to follow your directions to a Tee but am so much a novice at this that I don't know what the axle mounting plate is, so I would have a hard time measuring to it. I do appreciate your instructions as I do all the folks on the forum. This is a total learning process for me and I don't know all the technical terms used with trailers in general, and Airstreams in particular. I hope you will bear with me. I did locate a company in the Portland area that says it can do the job. The name is Potter Webster Company and their subsidiary Hitch Mart Services located on Walker street in Portland. I did call the only Airstream dealer in Oregon and they gave me the name of the shop in Eugene that Walt used.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:58 PM   #16
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Has anyone watched them align an axle? Just what do they do, or what do they adjust, or what do they bend would be more accurate, since there really is no adjustment?
It is necessary to Bend the axle tube and force that bend against the trailer frame in order to change any angle at the spindle. The spindle is welded to the arm and the arm in turn is welded to the shank that fits into the axle tube.

Depending on where they position the jack will change the effect of the bend. The closer to one side the more effect the bend will have on that side. If the bend in on the horizontal it will effect toe in. If the bend is on the vertical it will effect the camber.

Another thought on a possible shop would be to call Dexter and ask them who adjust there axles. Do not take your trailer to an RV dealer find a shop that has experience bending truck axles.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:57 PM   #17
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The May 2008 Blue Beret lists two businesses in Oregon that align both Henschen and Dura-Torque axles:

Cairsen Brake & Alignment
265 Taylor St
Eugene, OR 97402
541.344.5887

Henderson's Line-Up
417 S.W. Henderson Lane
Grants Pass, OR 97527
541.479.2882
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:01 PM   #18
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The May 2008 Blue Beret lists two businesses in Oregon that align both Henschen and Dura-Torque axles:
Now that is what I call some real information.

If your Google each of these companies you will see they are shop that can handle your needs.

This is the list from the BB. for across the country.
http://www.airstream.com/files/libra...eab9813bf0.pdf
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:36 PM   #19
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As I recall from the AS service manual camber is not nearly as critical as the right toe in
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On trailer axles camber is just a pre load on the bearings while tracking in a straight line.

Toe In is what takes the outer edge off a tire.
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I was going to recommend Hitch Mart to you, got to the second page of the thread and saw you had found them. They just installed a new Dexter axle on our Globetrotter.

Nice work, nice folks. Loren thinks Airstreams are very cool and takes care and pride in his work. Rich is a manager who charges a fair price and would like to see your return business.

If it was me, I'd cut and paste the helpful tech stats from this thread to take with me.
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Hi again,

For the record:
Cairsen Brake & Alignment
265 Taylor St
Eugene, OR 97402
541.344.5887

was a misprint & should be (I just spoke with Dave Schumann, the Schu's News author):
Kaiser Brake & Alignment, Inc.
265 Taylor St
Eugene, OR 97402
541.344.5887
800.877.5890

It's the shop I used.

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I have an appointment at Hitch Mart tomorrow so I'll let you know how things go. They say they can do an aligment. jc
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JC - I'd like to hear how the alignment at Hitchmart went. I bought a pre-owned 2005 16' Bambi recently, and it is wearing the outside tire edges quite rapidly. I was also referred to Kaiser by Sutton RV, but really don't want to drive all the way to Eugene just for an alignment.
I also want to lift the trailer a little bit, and Sutton RV service said that's a pretty easy process. The only adjustment I can spot looks like it would actually lower the trailer a bit, if I'm looking at the axle mounting correctly. Anyone with experience on this?
Appreciate any feedback you can offer.
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JC - I'd like to hear how the alignment at Hitchmart went. I bought a pre-owned 2005 16' Bambi recently, and it is wearing the outside tire edges quite rapidly. I was also referred to Kaiser by Sutton RV, but really don't want to drive all the way to Eugene just for an alignment.
I also want to lift the trailer a little bit, and Sutton RV service said that's a pretty easy process. The only adjustment I can spot looks like it would actually lower the trailer a bit, if I'm looking at the axle mounting correctly. Anyone with experience on this?
Appreciate any feedback you can offer.
Thanks, Ed
If you have a single axle trailer that is wearing tires don't fool around with some local shop. Drive the distance to have it done right. The Hinchen axles are NOT ADJUSTABLE in the sense of a car front end. There are no adjustments. You have to BEND the axles and there for you have to find a shop that knows what they are doing the first time.

As for raising the trailer I do not know of any way to do that short of remounting the axles on the frame. There are 4 holes on each side that hold the axle and they are not elongated to allow for adjustment.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:30 PM   #26
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Andy, you suggested that I call you regarding this post. I now have a new axle and had commented that I was not sure the the new axle did the job. I was not certain in this post precisely where we were measuring to on the axle mounting plate. To get something within 1/16th of an inch the measurement must from and to precise points and I truely don't know what the axle mounting plate is since that page is missing from my AS manual. In re-reading your post, I note that your first creteria is to make sure the tires are not twisted. In looking more closely, I think they well may be, since I must maneuver the trailer past the garage to the pad beside the house. The rear of the trailer must move to the left rather sharply to get to that position. Perhaps I don't really have the problem after all. I can't back the unit straight onto the pad because of the curb so I'll have to wait until I have it out on the street to make the measurements. Thanks for your help. Jim
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Andy, you suggested that I call you regarding this post. I now have a new axle and had commented that I was not sure the the new axle did the job. I was not certain in this post precisely where we were measuring to on the axle mounting plate. To get something within 1/16th of an inch the measurement must from and to precise points and I truely don't know what the axle mounting plate is since that page is missing from my AS manual. In re-reading your post, I note that your first creteria is to make sure the tires are not twisted. In looking more closely, I think they well may be, since I must maneuver the trailer past the garage to the pad beside the house. The rear of the trailer must move to the left rather sharply to get to that position. Perhaps I don't really have the problem after all. I can't back the unit straight onto the pad because of the curb so I'll have to wait until I have it out on the street to make the measurements. Thanks for your help. Jim
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The axle mounting plate, is welded to the outside of the frame, and is easily visible, especially if you remove a tire. You will find 2 each 5/8 inch bolts that go thru the axle mounting bracket, that hold the axle to the axle mounting plate.

The dimension you should come up with is either 61 3/8 inches, or 67 1/8 inches.

I would be very cautious of a shop that did not know what an axle mounting plate is.

If you need more help, please call Greg at our office.

He can post a photo of what the axle mounting plate looks like, when it's mounted.

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