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05-07-2004, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
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Good advice
I would say that Andy's comments are very true, and extend to leaf springs also. The only advantage with leaf springs is that you can modify them more easily by adding or subtracting leaves if necessary to increase/decrease the load rating.
I built a "pocket" in the belly pan to allow moving the shocks inside the frame. It doesn't look as good as the original, but I just wasn't happy with the clearance for the bigger shocks and deeper brake drums. Moving them inside the frame also makes it easier to replace them.
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05-07-2004, 10:19 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Back to the part about getting opinions on the shape of your axles, my mechanical ability extends to changing my oil and other, very simple tasks. But I got under my Trade Wind and it was obvious that my axles are shot: even for a mechanically challenged person like me, I could relate those torsion arms to my own arm, and see that, pointing upward, they are at the absolute end of their travel, no bounce or cushion left to give.
So in my humble, untutored, new-experience opinion, quit hauling your compromised rig from shop to shop for opinions and roll underneath it. Those torsion arms tell it all.
Connie
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You go, Connie! Your post about sums it up.
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05-07-2004, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Don
What does it mean when you said you had the springs reworked? I was planning to replace mine on the 58, and I thought that spring can and do wear out, so can they be reworked or rebuilt?
Thanks
Ken
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05-07-2004, 03:07 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
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Ken,
Im my case the springs were cleaned up, new leaf installed, new clips and new bushings. According to the shop foreman, the arch of my springs looked ok. The free arch was about 5", measured from the center of the eyes to the top of the spring pack. During the disassembly and rebuilding, the individual leaves are inspected for cracks, corrosion, and defects.
If you need to have your springs re-arched, you might as well get new ones. There are very few shops that can do the heat treating required to restore springs to their original condition. Avoid any shops that re-arch the springs by bending them on a 'bulldozer'. Without the heat treatment, re-arching is only a temporary fix.
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05-07-2004, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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My plan was to just get new springs - did you check into that, when I talked to Dexter, they said they could make me a set - either 1200 or 1500 lb. Trailer dry weight is about 3500 lbs and duel axle. Figured 1200 should be plenty, though 1500 would give me an extra margin - haven't decided yet
Ken
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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05-07-2004, 05:41 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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New Springs
Ken,
Be careful! A lot of the springs nowdays are 1.75" wide and use 9/16" bushings and bolts. The original are 2" wide and use 5/8" bushings and hardware. You may need to replace your mounts, perches and other stuff.
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05-07-2004, 06:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Yiks! I'll make sure I check that. Is there a problem if my springs are bad to weld new brackets on?
Ken
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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05-07-2004, 07:03 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken J
Yiks! I'll make sure I check that. Is there a problem if my springs are bad to weld new brackets on?
Ken
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Wouldn't be a problem. But you want to check a full service spring shop to see if it's cheaper to build new ones to the original size. Springs are pretty cheap. Anyplace that does truck springs should be able to make them.
If you decide to weld on new brackets, you can buy all the parts in one trip to Northern Tool or any other trailer parts retailer.
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05-07-2004, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Don
Thank you very much - big help, learned something new......
Ken
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1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
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