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Old 03-21-2015, 07:29 PM   #1
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Another Dexter Axle Question

Received my new dexter axles, shock mounts and shocks. I have looked at pictures and searched the forums but can't tell exactly where to weld the shock mounts. I can tell about where to put them but not exactly. Do they go on the top or the side, Do you have to take the backing plates off to get to where they need to be welded, or can you get by with only welding on one side?
I thought there would be instructions, with clear up close pictures or drawings that would leave no doubt, like on top so many inches in from the outside and so much on the inside.
I am a dexter axle fan. I had a car hauling trailer built and paid extra for dexter axles. They may or may not be the better axle but I have experience with them, and trust them.
Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:40 PM   #2
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Interesting, the replacement axle for my Bambi II came with shock mounts installed. Different source/supplier I suppose.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:22 PM   #3
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These were drop shipped to supplier in Springfield Mo. from California but the shocks and brackets came in the mail. Were gona have them welder on before I took them to where the trailer is so I wouldn't have to make several trips. Guess i'm gona have to do it the hard way and make a few extra trips to the country.
I have read some post's as to how easy it was but for some reason i'm not finding it that way
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I think you should remove your old axles and start measuring. I have heard that before about Dexter axles. It is up to the buyer to "spec" the brackets and shock mounts as there are thousands of different configurations out there. Colin Hyde does this for us as he is an Airstream expert.

Once you have your axles down, then you can measure the distance from bottom frame rail to mounting notch, to mounting holes and then the shock mounts. Take an old axle with you to your welder and say there, make it like my old ones.

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Hopefully these photos will help. These are Dexter (pair) axles that I installed 7 years ago. My neighbor did the welding for me.

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Hi FreshAir! You and I have the same year vintage Trade Wind. I installed "stock" torsion axles from Axis. They came with the brackets and shock mounts already welded on. It looks like you specified a 32 degree starting angle where I opted for the 22 degree. I'm a little disappointed in the ride height. Most people might say I need new axles as my trailer sits as it did with the old axles. I'll call it the "vintage look".

Anyway, here is a photo. I think our friend the frog has a newer style Airstream with the "horizontal" shocks like my 86 has. Thus the shock mounts are different.

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Thanks for the help. I called Andy and talked to him and he lined me out a little, then went to the trailer and took the wheels off of one side and did some measuring. I took the axles and mounts to be welded on and should pick them up in the morning. It will be a month or so before I install them but we are trying to get everything lined out and going.
I was amazed that for bolts that haven't been bothered in years that they broke loose as easy as they did.

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Hi FreshAir! You and I have the same year vintage Trade Wind. I installed "stock" torsion axles from Axis. They came with the brackets and shock mounts already welded on. It looks like you specified a 32 degree starting angle where I opted for the 22 degree. I'm a little disappointed in the ride height. Most people might say I need new axles as my trailer sits as it did with the old axles. I'll call it the "vintage look".

Anyway, here is a photo. I think our friend the frog has a newer style Airstream with the "horizontal" shocks like my 86 has. Thus the shock mounts are different.

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If my memory is correct I had my neighbor weld the brackets according to the included instruction sheet. I had some difficulty connecting the shocks....I can't remember why but I made it work. The trailer height was much better. I pleased with the result.

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I think you should remove your old axles and start measuring. I have heard that before about Dexter axles. It is up to the buyer to "spec" the brackets and shock mounts as there are thousands of different configurations out there. Colin Hyde does this for us as he is an Airstream expert. Once you have your axles down, then you can measure the distance from bottom frame rail to mounting notch, to mounting holes and then the shock mounts. Take an old axle with you to your welder and say there, make it like my old ones. David
I have been asking shock manufacturers about how to mount the shocks in a more horizontal position. Not totally horizontal but similar to the ones in dbj216's pic. That will allow me to make more room in the shower. The all tell me "no". This includes Gabriel, Monroe, and KYB. They claim that it will allow gas that is normally at the top of the shock to enter the valve and create a situation with zero dampening. Is AS using special shocks for this application? Part number? AS year and model?



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I have been asking shock manufacturers about how to mount the shocks in a more horizontal position. Not totally horizontal but similar to the ones in dbj216's pic. That will allow me to make more room in the shower. The all tell me "no". This includes Gabriel, Monroe, and KYB. They claim that it will allow gas that is normally at the top of the shock to enter the valve and create a situation with zero dampening. Is AS using special shocks for this application? Part number? AS year and model?



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The shock Airstream uses is more like a steering damper than a shock. They can be used horizontally.
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Yes, the Airstream has specified a special shock absorber for their trailers. They are readily available at dealers, on line suppliers, and Airstream store.
These shocks aren't going to be available at the local auto parts store.

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Great. I'll check those out. That'll add a few inches to the floor space in my shower!
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