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Old 08-09-2006, 02:09 PM   #29
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70verlander,

Henschen is the axle that is on your coach - correct. However, Dexter axle was also used by Airstream as an OEM. From the sounds of things on the forums Dexter can provide a replacement also - with limited guess work - also by serial number identification. The Henschen will cost you $800.00 plus shipping with 12" electric brakes. A Dexter axle of equal quality will cost about half or that plus shipping. Likely there is a Dexter dealer in your neck of the woods - thus shipping will be the same or less.

I too agree that searching the forums is a great place to start - as much has been discussed on this topic.

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PS: Henschen and Dexter are both great axles - otherwise Airstream would not have selected to use them on new coaches!!!
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70verlander,

Henschen is the axle that is on your coach - correct. However, Dexter axle was also used by Airstream as an OEM.

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PS: Henschen and Dexter are both great axles - otherwise Airstream would not have selected to use them on new coaches!!!
Ok...but now I'm confused. Dexter wasn't the OEM on this axle when this trailer was built right? So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are not the OEM back when this original axle was designed and manufactured. Correct? Or was this one of those years where Airstream changed manufacturers during the model year production run?
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Hmmmm.

Dexter has only recently been a OE supplier to Airstream. Recently as in the past 12 months or so. I am not totally sure of the change date. For the sake of this thread that date is not really relevant.

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Ok...but now I'm confused. Dexter wasn't the OEM on this axle when this trailer was built right? So if I'm interpreting this correctly, they are not the OEM back when this original axle was designed and manufactured. Correct? Or was this one of those years where Airstream changed manufacturers during the model year production run?
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Jack.

You are correct.

Using a Dexter in place of a Henschen, is a substitute.

Replacing a Dexter, with a Dexter, makes sense.

Replace a Henschen with any other brand, usually causes more problems than it's worth, at least to some people.

To some others, their time has zero value. Therefore if they spent 10 or 15 hours or more, making the brand "X" work, they are happy, since they saved some money.

The usage of Dexter axles by Airstream, "is not" of a long term proposition.

Eventually, as the word has it, Airstream will again be Henschen exclusive.

There seems to be some inherent problems since the change was made.

We are at this time, not at liberty to pass on any further information, than the above.

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I have read a lot of these arguments about which axle to use sine buying my 1973 31' Excella about two weeks ago. It was obvious that the first thing to be done was replace the running gear. Axles are at plus 10 degrees above horizontal and I'm sure the brakes are in need of a rebuild at the least.

I ordered my axles from Andy and took the recommendation to go from 3200#, 22 1/2 degrees to 3500#, 35 degrees. I am also going to put on new shocks although some threads indicate that they don't do much. Thsy are there now and I'm going to leave them there.

So far, I'v spent about 1 hour putting some penetrating oil (Blaster) and loosening the bolts getting ready to remove the axle assembly. The trailer is up on jack stands, wheels off and teaching my son about torsion, spindles, beraings, burnt grease smells and the proper handling (safe) of tools. Safety is a big issue.

I plan to take pictures and tally the time. I'll post all here on a seperate thread and be honest about the ease or lack of on the new installation. My time is valuable and I don't want to have to mar a new axle with welding equipment.

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I have read a lot of these arguments about which axle to use sine buying my 1973 31' Excella about two weeks ago. It was obvious that the first thing to be done was replace the running gear. Axles are at plus 10 degrees above horizontal and I'm sure the brakes are in need of a rebuild at the least.

I ordered my axles from Andy and took the recommendation to go from 3200#, 22 1/2 degrees to 3500#, 35 degrees. I am also going to put on new shocks although some threads indicate that they don't do much. Thsy are there now and I'm going to leave them there.

So far, I'v spent about 1 hour putting some penetrating oil (Blaster) and loosening the bolts getting ready to remove the axle assembly. The trailer is up on jack stands, wheels off and teaching my son about torsion, spindles, beraings, burnt grease smells and the proper handling (safe) of tools. Safety is a big issue.

I plan to take pictures and tally the time. I'll post all here on a seperate thread and be honest about the ease or lack of on the new installation. My time is valuable and I don't want to have to mar a new axle with welding equipment.

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Joe.

Don't count the time that you spent with the old bolts.

New Grade 8 hardware is supplied at no charge.

Simply cut the old bolts off, with a torch, if you wish, as there is no need to save them.

Shocks should be replaced at the time of axle replacement, unless they are fairly new.

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The job consisted of replacing the axles, nevr lube bearings are extra but well worth it, new wheels, tire mounting, materials and labor, the total bill was $1314. Your Further comments and questions are welcome.
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Wow!!!!

$1314.00 complete for two axles replaced without you even having to break a sweat! When I worked at Axis that is similar to what we would have charged - however Axis does not offer the Never-Lube. I think you got a great deal. Dexter is also the largest manufacturer of torsion axles in the U.S.A. - with over 300 dealers nationwide you will never be far from help - if you would happen to need it.

I have really enjoyed this post!

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Thanks for the accolades, but I just cant take all the credit, I'm lucky to have some top notch axlemen locally in Florence, Mississippi. These guys mainly take care of livestock trailers and when I pulled in with my Overlander they were kinda awestruck.(a gem amongst the cattle wagons) I was thinking mounting plate modifications, but an axle swap presented no problem. We measured then called Dexter, Indiana. Dexter wanted serial #s. He says see you in 3 weeks. Installation day: I back into a bay, examine my new axles, cool, Nev-r-lube bearings, even has shock mounts, although I'm not running shocks, now will they mount up, yes! a DIRECT FIT NO MODIFICATIONS NEEDED NO WELDING, NO DRILLING, I think this Dexter Direct Replacement and Nev-R- Lube bearings might be a hard thing to swallow for some forum members, why, who ever heard of not greasing your bearings and sometimes yourself in the process. Why not install the axles yourself ? you could use the experience. I chose the easiest, most cost effective way of doing axles. And in the process saved some bucks to put in the fuel tank and saved some time for camping on the river, Best Regards
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ticki2, i have taken those measurements a year ago with a laser light on a sliding ruler but from the edge of the whell fender to the upper edge of the rims. Since the distance from the edge of the rim to the center of the hub is constant the delta should be the same. I do have a 1970 Overlander and can share those measurements, after I dig into my excel files tomorrow.
FrenchBern , I've been out of town the past week and just catching up . I would be very interested in those measurements that you have
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