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Old 08-05-2006, 10:33 PM   #15
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Hi TOM CRUMP--Thanks for the great photos, which indicate to me that 22 degrees down appears to be the correct angle, as your A/S seems to be riding at the correct height.--Frank S
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Old 08-06-2006, 06:52 AM   #16
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I have a 1973 31" Excella and the axles were shot when I bought it - minus 10 degrees. The dealer recommended replacing the 3200# with 3500# and the stock 22 1/2 degrees with 35 degrees.

Tom, I love the pictures - very pretty. Did your axles come with the brakes or did you replace seperately or reuse the old ones?

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Old 08-06-2006, 07:53 AM   #17
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Tom , Defelice , and others with new axles

If you have the time it would be very helpful to others to take some measurements so older axles could be checked to see how close they are to spec.

Here is what I propose:

1- normal - trailer level - center of hub to fender lip
down angle of axle with weight of trailer on them

2 - front wheels on blocks as if changing rear tires
front axle compressed - center of hub to fender lip
rear axle hanging - center of hub to fender lip

3 - Specify trailer size and year , down angle spec.,and weight rating of axle.

Thanks for any info that you can offer.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:34 AM   #18
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ticki2, i have taken those measurements a year ago with a laser light on a sliding ruler but from the edge of the whell fender to the upper edge of the rims. Since the distance from the edge of the rim to the center of the hub is constant the delta should be the same. I do have a 1970 Overlander and can share those measurements, after I dig into my excel files tomorrow.
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:34 PM   #19
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I had the option to use the old drums and brakes, but went with new
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:06 PM   #20
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Tom, thanks for the answer but i'm interested if the price included new brakes or not.


Ticki2, I've jacked up the trailer already taken the wheels off. The skirts were at the level of the wheel rim with trailer weight on all wheels. The arm angle was minus 10 degrees - yes, above the frame. After sitting on jack stands for a week with the weight of the wheels and tires, the arm came down to minus 2-3 degrees. There was not much clearance between the frame and the road.

I have ordered 3500#, 35 degree axles and will measure heights and post.

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Old 08-07-2006, 12:57 AM   #21
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WoW!

Tom,

That's pretty sweeeeeet!!!

Just two cents from a retired axleman!

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Old 08-07-2006, 03:22 AM   #22
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I just love it when a plan comes together, got the runnin gear out of the way, still got a major project on my hands, got some interior bugs to work out, along with some wood refinishing, new pergo or cork flooring to go in. fiberglass rehab in the Bath, strip and clearcoat the aluminum, but she's fully functional, Just got back from St Joe peninsula, FL. She had been parked, neglected for 5 years, she's got a good home now
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:05 AM   #23
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Good plan!

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I just love it when a plan comes together, got the runnin gear out of the way,
TC,

Good plan.

It has been said in the past but I'll say it again - major projects that require axle change out - this should be the first course of action. For safety and other reasons I would do just what you have done/are doing.

Nice job,
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:25 PM   #24
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Tom , Defelice , and others with new axles

If you have the time it would be very helpful to others to take some measurements so older axles could be checked to see how close they are to spec.

Here is what I propose:

1- normal - trailer level - center of hub to fender lip
down angle of axle with weight of trailer on them

2 - front wheels on blocks as if changing rear tires
front axle compressed - center of hub to fender lip
rear axle hanging - center of hub to fender lip

3 - Specify trailer size and year , down angle spec.,and weight rating of axle.

Thanks for any info that you can offer.
The following articles provides the test procedure to check your axles.

http://www.inlandrv.com/articles/dur...axle-92001.htm

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Excellent

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This dexter dealer told me dexter is now building axles for the airstream factory as original equipment on new airstreams. When they called the order in, the dexter people wanted the SERIAL NUMBERS that are on a plate on the axle tube, after they got the serial # they built my axles, took 3 weeks for delivery, the install went smooth, a perfect match, #
TC,

This is the most exciting thing that I have heard in a long time. The entire ordering process can be complicated for non-axleman - this should allow a surefire way for Airstream owners to get a great axle with a great fit - removing some of the difficulty.

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Thanks To All!!

I just wanted to take a moment and thank all of you who have posted responses to my question about the axles. It really means a lot and I am truly excited to be a new part of the "airstream community".

At this point, I have determined (based on your collective advice) that the axles DEFINITELY need to be replaced. However, I have a couple more questions.
1) I know that the axles from Inland RV are about $800 each, is there any place anyone knows that is a little bit less expensive for a comparable product?
2) How many companies make replacement airstream axles, and is there any difference in quality?
3) Is this a reasonable "do it yourself" project? (I'm relatively handy)
4) It may sound like a stupid question, but could someone please describe to me the difference between a 10" and a 12" axle? Which one is best for me?

Hey, thanks again for all of the responses, I REALLY appreciate all of your help...

P.S. I spent all weekend working on the interior, and now my beauty has a nice vinyl plank "wood look" floor in it, along with a new stereo system! I love working on a piece of equipment as well-constructed as an Airstream-- I can see how all of you are so passionate about it.
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Old 08-09-2006, 10:43 AM   #27
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I just wanted to take a moment and thank all of you who have posted responses to my question about the axles. It really means a lot and I am truly excited to be a new part of the "airstream community".

At this point, I have determined (based on your collective advice) that the axles DEFINITELY need to be replaced. However, I have a couple more questions.
1) I know that the axles from Inland RV are about $800 each, is there any place anyone knows that is a little bit less expensive for a comparable product?
2) How many companies make replacement airstream axles, and is there any difference in quality?
3) Is this a reasonable "do it yourself" project? (I'm relatively handy)
4) It may sound like a stupid question, but could someone please describe to me the difference between a 10" and a 12" axle? Which one is best for me?

Hey, thanks again for all of the responses, I REALLY appreciate all of your help...

P.S. I spent all weekend working on the interior, and now my beauty has a nice vinyl plank "wood look" floor in it, along with a new stereo system! I love working on a piece of equipment as well-constructed as an Airstream-- I can see how all of you are so passionate about it.

There are other companies that make "torsion axles".

If you chose to replace yours with something other than the original equipment, you will have to come up with several specs.

All you need for an original equipment replacement axle, is the trailer serial number.

Secondly, depending on which company, other than original equipment you may chose, basically because of price, will not necessarily give you a "best there is" replacement, in quality or performance.

Third, with a brand "X" replacement, most of the time the owners have to modify the axle in order for it to fit correctly, in spite of providing specs. There are several posts from owners that state they would not go for a brand "X" the second time.

The original equipment replacements are "direct bolt in", requiring no changes of any kind.

Fourth, if you put heat from a welder or torch to a torsion axle, you very likely will ruin the rubber rods.

The gamble is yours. Save a few bucks, and take your chances. Use the original equipment replacements and you have a 100 percent guaranteed fit.

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1) I know that the axles from Inland RV are about $800 each, is there any place anyone knows that is a little bit less expensive for a comparable product?
2) How many companies make replacement airstream axles, and is there any difference in quality?
3) Is this a reasonable "do it yourself" project? (I'm relatively handy)
4) It may sound like a stupid question, but could someone please describe to me the difference between a 10" and a 12" axle? Which one is best for me?
Inland RV will sell the exact replacement (Henschen axle) and I do not believe anyone else has that brand new axle available at any price. There are other brands available for less money. There have been many threads on the topic. Most of those threads the installer needed to make some modifications of some sort. So in the long run may be it was less money and may be not.

Those other non-Henschen axles of which there are several should make a quality product if the axle is specified correctly to match the needs of the trailer.

Do it yourself. It is reasonable that you could do it. Many have before you with a some knowledge of things mechanical. Cutting/welding may be neccessary on a non-Henschen axle if it is not built to fit exactly. That is may be where the biggest issue lies as to axle replacements.

An axle that has 12" brakes is a more HD axle designed for greater loads and load handling. If you have 12" brakes now (and I believe you do) my recommendation is to not go smaller or go to disc brakes. Unless you are OK with the TV handling more of the braking job. And frankly I wouldn't want the TV handling any extra load if I could help it, even if I had a 1 ton dually for a TV. And I don't have one.

My personal opinion.

Also now is the time to modify the running gear for the future if you saw the need. As in increase the load carrying capacity of the axles. Not by huge measures. As a suggestion, if the current axles are rates for 3000 pounds you may want to opt for 3200 pound axles. Don't get nuts because the ride will get too stiff and shake the insides. Weigh your rig and account for items that are not in your trailer at the time of the weigh in* to know the load you are working with. Assume your trailer is like me. I get heavier with age. Your trailer will too. So build in some extra load carring capacity to meet the future need.

Also now would be an awesome time to consider disc brakes with the superior stopping ability.

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