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Old 05-06-2013, 03:07 PM   #1
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1964 Axle Heads Up

I just wanted to give some of you with 1964 trailers a heads up about changing out your axles. I came across an issue today that I thought some others might encounter also...

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The new low profile, axle bracket has 3/4" gap between the tube and the top of the bracket.
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However the original distance is 1/4". The bracket is welded directly onto of the axle tube.
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When you slide it up in there, there is no meat left to drill a new hole. You will have to weld on some 3/16" metal to extend the hanging plates to give some meat to bolt onto. You might also note that the 3000# and larger tube is fatter than the original tube. You must cut out the difference. The jig you see above makes marking it out very easy.

Hope this helps some of you prepare for your swap. A two hour job will turn into a four hour one. You do get the pleasure of welding however...
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Good info Frank
I am filing it in case I ever get around to working on mine
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Can you not enlarge the slot for the tube and drill new holes in both the axle mounting bracket and the trailer mounting plate?

Just a question.
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Why not just locate the axle in the notch in the mounting plate and drill new holes higher up? Thru the mounting plate and axle plate. You could use the template you made to locate the new holes so they all match up.
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Twink,

The template is a copy of the bracket on the new axle. How would I move 3/4" up if the space is only 1/4"? I would have to cut out the main frame rail to do that. I also cannot use the original notch because the original axle is 2 3/4 and the new one is 3 1/2". I almost always have to widen the notch doing these swaps and that is no big deal, the spacing above between the notch and the frame rail is however.
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Yes, new holes could be drilled higher since new holes will be drilled anyhow, but then the down return on the mounting bracket gets in the way of the drill, wrench, impact driver.

I thought this info would be appreciated, not questioned.
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Should the top of the template not be up against the bottom of the frame? On our trailers the top of the axle mounting plate rest against the under side of the frame. In fact, on our Excella there are bolts through the holes I see on the axle mounting flange where it rest against the horizontal part of the frame.
What am I missing?
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I thought this info would be appreciated, not questioned.
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Where does the slot end up when you line up the holes? As long as it's below the frame rail, you should be able to move the slot, right?
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The template IS pushed up against the main frame rail in the photo. What am I missing here?
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Ahhhh, I see what you are saying...
Why not re drill the axles? They are the disposable part, modify them!
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Sorry Frank.

The line above the template in the photo looks like the 90 degree bend in the frame rail. It must have been formed by the flange on the old axle.
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on any other year, the mounting plate is a full 1 1/2, if not 2" taller. 1964 is a very odd year. I thought this would be informative to those owners. I feel like I am really being second guessed here and hope this thread will be taken down. No wonder so many commercial vendors who do this work day in and day out have stopped posting.
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on any other year, the mounting plate is a full 1 1/2, if not 2" taller. 1964 is a very odd year. I thought this would be informative to those owners. I feel like I am really being second guessed here and hope this thread will be taken down. No wonder so many commercial vendors who do this work day in and day out have stopped posting.

I think these are just normal questions from folks trying to understand the issue; thanks for being patient and responding. This info is really useful and as a 64 owner who HAD this same issue recently, I appreciate seeing the pics and discussion. It would have helped me immensely a few months ago to understand the issue and possible resolutions.
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on any other year, the mounting plate is a full 1 1/2, if not 2" taller. 1964 is a very odd year. I thought this would be informative to those owners. I feel like I am really being second guessed here and hope this thread will be taken down. No wonder so many commercial vendors who do this work day in and day out have stopped posting.
The mans absolutely 100% right. Very little metal remains below the holes in the frame mounting plate when you re bore to accept the new axle mounting plate, and if you order the "high profile" axle plate you're outta luck. Would have been nice to read this a few years ago before I replaced the X in my 1964 Safari. Don't take the thread down, may save somebody some heartburn!
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