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Old 04-21-2008, 10:20 PM   #29
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3/8" sounds a little short, but there is plenty of room to go past that. Any idea of the correct diameter I need?
Absolutely. They are 8 x 3/8. They are also 18-8 Stainless Steel alloy. The ¾ are 8 x ¾. I have never subscribed to the “No Screw is too Long as Long as It has Threads to the Head” school. Use the 3/8” when you are joining thin things like two pieces of aluminum and the 3/4” ones when you need longer. Trust me, when you need to remove something and replace it, you will appreciate the more correctly sized screw. Hey, they come even shorter, the 3/8 is overkill.

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Once I get that taken care of I move on to several other issues.

1. One of the knobs keeps falling off the AC unit from being stripped, and needs to be glued.
Grease on the shaft with plastic wrap or aluminum foil followed by JB Weld perhaps? Just make sure you don’t glue the knob on permanently.

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2. Need to add some trim around the AC interior to cover the gap.
Found some panel trim at Home Depot. One 8’ piece was plenty and was about $2.00 plus change.

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3. Need to clean out belly pan under the black tank from a small seepage (How to do this without removing belly pan beats me).
Best of luck my friend. You are on your own here. May the force be with you.

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4. Cutting out wood flooring in bath and gluing down vinyl if I can get more of it.

And now that I have officially hijacked your thread, I bid you adieu.
Regards to Amy and Colin!
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:26 PM   #30
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Hey Steve,

What kind of AC do you have? I might be able to still dig up my old Coleman knobs. I can’t locate them right now, but I am unlikely to have thrown them away. I think.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:02 PM   #31
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:07 PM   #32
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Even better. See post #25. Call Kevin. I’ll bet he will take care of you.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:01 AM   #33
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Ahh, VSWINGFIELD, now that the heat of summer is upon us, would you mind giving us an update on the cooling power of that carrier you installed. Is it doing the job? I just spent another weekend in Globe, Az with temps about 101 and still think the dometic 15k I have is over rated by about a factor of 3.

Does the carrier cool all the rig or do you have to close off the back half at the bathroom/closet with the accordion separator to keep the front cool?

Hope all is well and looking forward to your post.
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Ahh, VSWINGFIELD, now that the heat of summer is upon us, would you mind giving us an update on the cooling power of that carrier you installed. Is it doing the job? I just spent another weekend in Globe, Az with temps about 101 and still think the dometic 15k I have is over rated by about a factor of 3.

Does the carrier cool all the rig or do you have to close off the back half at the bathroom/closet with the accordion separator to keep the front cool?

Hope all is well and looking forward to your post.
Thanks, all is well.

The news is that in full sun, it gets mighty warm inside. As you know, 34' is a lot of trailer to cool on one unit. fr8shakr has two ACs on her 34' Airstream and that is superior. I still haven't had to completely close off the rear yet, but probably will when it gets over 100, and it will. I have been closing the vents on the AC that face rearward and running the bedroom vent. Even though the bedroom is oriented to the west, it stays as cool as the living area this way. My Excella does not have the wrap around windows in the bedroom so solar gain is minimized and insulation is superior.

My routine is to change immediately to shorts and a tank top when I get home. A couple of strategically placed fans make temps in the 80s comfortable since the humidity is lower inside. Think, Arkansas=Arizona sun+near Arizona temps+Louisiana humidity. You get the idea.

As soon as the sun goes down, it cools off immediately and is very pleasant. I had it set on the "low" fan speed and mid thermostat range last night and it was 66 inside this morning.

To sum it up, another AC would help. Even a smaller one would work for the bedroom area, but that is just not in the plan right now. I just had to buy a new refrigerator and am also in the process of replacing the carpet with cork. Cabinet and closet fronts are next. It's always something.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:12 PM   #35
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I hear you on the 34' is hard to cool in the sun and AR sounds like a peach of a place in the summer. We basically just have the solar gain and it is huge. 101 and I could not get the inside cool even with the back sealed off. I had all the awnings out but things did not calm down until the sun went down. Then it was real nice.

Well good (bad) to know that apparently it is not the brand of AC but the fact that the heat load is huge. I tell you that my 12k BTU (2phase) Friedrich window AC units work an order of magnitude better than the 15k Dometic in terms of air flow and cooling capacity. I just don't understand how they came up with the rating for the Dometic.

Interesting about the fridge as mine is doing some funky things here as of late. Does not want to cool while on LP. Yep checked the flame, it was present. It was working fine until I had it cleaned and serviced. It is their problem now. I always thought the LP side of a fridge was the most robust so I was sort of cornfused.

Stay cool. I have thought about rigging up a portable sun shade. My in-laws vend at fairs and such and they can throw up a full size tent in about 20 minutes that will take a 50 -70 mph microburst. Just getting the sun off the skin would make all the difference in the world and really open up the possibilities for rv-ing in the summer in some semblance of comfort in our latitude.
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Old 07-02-2008, 04:54 AM   #36
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Hi Elolson,
I to have been plagued by the cooling factor of the 34ft trailer and I still have my original dometic 13.5k btu A/C which is 17 years old.I have pondered installing a 15k unit but I did not know if it would help or not since my unit will produce 55 deg air at the vents but it is not able to distribute it fast enough to overcome the heat so I am using two small fans one in front and rear which helps to circulate the air and keeps the temps down to 82-84 deg inside while the outside temps are in the upper 90`s to a 100 deg. As stated earlier after the sun goes down cooling is much better. Good Luck
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #37
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We are kind of hijacking Vaughn's thread but that is kind of the theme. He did a real nice job on the install and I was curious if that model performed better than the Dometic 15k that I have and it does not sound like it. I have not noticed a huge difference in performance over the 13.5K unit I used to have until I scraped it off going under a low clearance bar. I do get a lot more breaker trips with the 15k unit and had to buy an autotransformer. The 13.5 unit almost never tripped.

A lot of the older parks I stay at are 30amp. The newer units come pre-wired to make a second AC installation easy, true that you can't run both at once, but you can cool the bedroom which is critical for most of us. Turns out that my unit does not have that, I'd have to do something different which is discussed in a post under excellas. Inland Andy had some good options, I just have not taken the leap yet as I do get good use out of the fantastic fan for most of the rest of the year. Thus the tradeoff, spend thousands for cool during a few months and make it less desirable for the other 6mo of the year (summer lasts 6mo in this part of the country).

The solution is to get the sun off the surface.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:20 AM   #38
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Not hijacking at all. Once the initial install was documented, the overall performance becomes the useful information on this thread. To get a good comparison between elolson's Dometic and my Carrier, we would probably have to park the trailers side by side and run back an forth all day. (Not the worst idea I have ever heard, but would certainly require refreshment during the tests )

I can say that I notice an improvement over the 13.5 Carrier that it replaced. The Carrier on the Trade Wind performed about the same as the one on the Excella. I wouldn't necessarily say that I would replace a perfectly good AC just for the slight upgrade in capacity, but it's a no-brainer if you need a new unit.

The only trouble I have had with breaker trips were due to power cord problems, see finalcutjoe's thread http://www.airforums.com/forums/f37/...ord-42108.html. I have also replaced the breakers, they were 25 years old after all. I am parked till I can get a 3/4 ton TV, so I haven't been to any campgrounds with it. I am living in it and doing some remodeling in anticapitation of future travels.
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Staying cool is a struggle. We added silver window tint to our 69' Sovereign, a 5k window unit over the kitchen sink and run a small fan to move it all around. Still if the outside temperature is over 90 and the sun is shining on the roof it can't keep up. The roof unit is only about 6 years old, but hail squashed most of the metal fins, before we got it. So it's capacity is diminished, but then, so is mine.:-) I too am considering some kind of portable shade device, since campgrounds can't seem to guarantee a shady spot. I have also considered painting the top of the AS white, but opinions vary on the effectiveness of that. Do SOB's have this same problem? Maybe I should ask some of them? They just don't seem as friendly as Air Streamers. But then I have been told I don't play well with "others."
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Hi bill b,

Aria posted photos of a cover from Harbor Freight on this thread http://www.airforums.com/forums/f458...tml#post589155. I will consider one, or more, of these myself.
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Staying cool is a struggle. We added silver window tint to our 69' Sovereign, a 5k window unit over the kitchen sink and run a small fan to move it all around. Still if the outside temperature is over 90 and the sun is shining on the roof it can't keep up. The roof unit is only about 6 years old, but hail squashed most of the metal fins, before we got it. So it's capacity is diminished, but then, so is mine.:-) I too am considering some kind of portable shade device, since campgrounds can't seem to guarantee a shady spot. I have also considered painting the top of the AS white, but opinions vary on the effectiveness of that. Do SOB's have this same problem? Maybe I should ask some of them? They just don't seem as friendly as Air Streamers. But then I have been told I don't play well with "others."
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There are condensing coil fins "combs" available from many sources.

Gently and carefully, with the comb, you can restore the fins to almost like new condition. There are different combs for a different number of fins per inch.

DO NOT attempt this with a hair comb.

When the fins are squashed, the efficiency of the AC goes down.

When the fins are in good shape, then maximum efficiency for that unit will be a thumbs up deal.

Might take a half to one hour of your time, but that's certainly a lot cheaper than a new AC.

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Hey Vaughn,

Just went outside to plug the old girl in for the trip, and my AC turns on. Funny since my AC unit switch is OFF. I did get the fans to shut off by rotating the circular switch to off, but not without it being a PITA. The knob is stripped, and I have to use pliers. Is there a reason the on/off switch isn't working like it should?

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