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08-28-2019, 04:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Globetrotter
Nashville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 58
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Where would you put the fireplace?
We're looking at installing either a Cub or Grizzly stove ( https://cubicminiwoodstoves.com ) in our Globetrotter 25FB and we're having a tough time picking a spot. We could put it in front of the living area TV, removing the TV but that is somewhat valuable space! We could mount it on the wall opposite of the shower, but directly above is a rib line (of course) and the stove requires a straight pipe with no bends. We could remove a little bit of the couch and build a little platform in front of the window, but that seems a bit involved (though the couch is never moved and we considered building out a little sofa instead of the dinette anyways!). And finally, we considered simply removing the hanging closet wall and placing the stove on that, leaving the shelves below, right next to the bed. My only concern is: where the heck would I hang my jacket and button ups?! Does anyone have a simple way to install another closet somewhere? And where the heck do you get the covering materials for the walls anyways??
Any suggestions? Pictures are VERY appreciated. Also, for those who already have little stoves, should we go Cub sized or Grizzly? We're looking forward to being even more off-grid this winter, especially with lithium, 400W of solar panels and a soon-to-be-installed simple rainwater collection system!
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'19 Globetrotter 25FB
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08-28-2019, 05:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,119
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Me, I would not put it in the trailer. I would do a system connected propane catalytic converter if I needed the heat without using electricity. Make it look like a stove if you must. Put a woodburning something outside.
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08-28-2019, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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The only real place it makes sense is where the table is. But then you’d lose the table.
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08-28-2019, 08:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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I have a Salamander Hobbit in my Overlander. It's really fantastic to be able to sit by a real fire in the evening, and to heat the rig off-grid.
If you intend to do any kind of serious heating, get the Grizzly or something larger. If you just want something cute to play with and you'll heat with the furnace, then the Cub is fine. Those "heats x square feet" numbers on the website are ... optimistic.
Highly recommend putting it somewhere viewable from the front seating area. Can you move/delete the TV? Don't forget Cubic offers a wall mount, which wouldn't work for an exterior wall because of the curve, but would work great for an inner wall.
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08-29-2019, 07:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Globetrotter
Nashville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 58
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@TheGreatleys, I've never heard of the Salamander! That's fantastic. Good tip on the Grizzly, it will be for real heating, so we will certainly avoid the Cub! We are really toying with the idea of removing the TV and just putting this little guy in that corner where the TV would have been. We don't use the TV anyhow, so not much loss! I'd really like it to be at an angle in the corner, that seems to be the best place for it aesthetically.
@Daquenzer That's what we were thinking, but I think we're going to just turn that area into a big couch instead for lounging and have a little pull up table or something similar. If we put the stove where the table is, we'd likely have to run the pipe up through the upper lockers as well, and that seems painful! Perhaps we will remove that side wall lounge, open it up a bit, and place the stove in that corner...
@Bill M. We've heard good things about the catalytic heaters, but our goal is to be 100% off grid where our fuel can come from downed-trees around us and such. I liked the ideas that I saw for those, however!
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08-29-2019, 09:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Globetrotter
Nashville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Dec 2018
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P.S. TheGreatleys, reading your blog now. Great stuff!
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08-29-2019, 10:21 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1962 19' Globetrotter
New River
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 136
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I absolutely love woodburning fireplaces, have 3 in our home. Always wanted one in our '62 Globetrotter. But, at 16' interior space I came up with another solution. Catalytic heater when needed for heat and an indoor/outdoor bio ethanol fueled tabletop fireplace for some heat and, more importantly ambiance. Here's a pic.
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'62 GT
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08-29-2019, 12:57 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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08-29-2019, 03:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1962 19' Globetrotter
New River
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 136
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Sorry. Here is pic of tabletop fireplace in my Globetrotter.
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'62 GT
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08-29-2019, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
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Thanks Dan!
Looking forward to fall weather
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08-29-2019, 06:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
Thanks Dan!
Looking forward to fall weather
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You and me both.
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08-29-2019, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
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08-29-2019, 08:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
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To the original questions:
Location depends on size, and size depends on what you want to do. If it's for fun, cub. If it's for emergency primary heat somewhere with a harsh winter, grizzly or salamander or dwarf 4kw.
If you can wall mount, and it's for fun, putting a cub where the TV is seems like the most rational thing to me.
If bigger, then on the floor in one of the corners of the living room makes the most sense to me.
I wouldn't put it that close to the bed where the closet is. Mine is as close to the bed as I feel comfortable, embers can an do pop out from time to time, you don't want to drop them on your bed.
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08-29-2019, 09:03 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
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You asked for pictures
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08-30-2019, 10:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
Location depends on size, and size depends on what you want to do. If it's for fun, cub. If it's for emergency primary heat somewhere with a harsh winter, grizzly or salamander or dwarf 4kw.
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FWIW, the Grizzly is slightly smaller than your 3kW, and with a significantly shorter burn time due to looser air controls. Max burn time on a Grizzly is probably around 2 hours.
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08-31-2019, 09:28 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
You and me both.
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High of 69 today
Calling it
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1983 Airstream 310 Class A Motorhome
-Rob
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09-11-2019, 02:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2005 30' Classic
Keswick
, Virginia
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 158
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Thank you for a great question and fun solutions! I'd be all in, but the vote is 1-1 and you know how that works ��
Since I have a similar trailer design, it seems the only spot is where the TV is. I don't often use the TV either, but sometimes guests do. it would be cool to move it to the ceiling in front of the air conditioner, being able to fold it up. The old-time classic spot was beside the sink with a tiny pellet stove that worked great.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud FB
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 6.6L diesel
Charlottesville, Virginia
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09-16-2019, 07:15 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2008
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This is my first thought of where it might go. Move the small section of seating to connect with the larger section (outlined in red) , you may want to flip the foam, and build the fireplace into the wall (green box with yellow outline) by the door. The other option I see would be to remove the third section of the long sofa under the tv to build in the fireplace there. Since you’ve already considered removing the dinette, I’d go with the first option. This sofa section is long enough to stretch out on for an afternoon nap.
Carol
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