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07-07-2003, 07:37 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Ann Arbor
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what refrigerant for '77 A/C?
Greetings.
We just returned from a three week trip through the steamy upper midwest (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa). We had to rely on a couple of fans to cool ourselves down in the 90+ degree heat as the A/C didn't work. I suspect that it needs refrigerant. I don't have the manual here, so can't quote the make and other specs. My basic question, however, is what refrigerant to use? With regulations about CFCs, is there a way to convert an older A/C unit to modern refrigerant? Or am I looking at investing in a new A/C? Everthing else seems to work fine (switches, blower, etc.).
TIA for advice.
Eugenie
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07-07-2003, 08:18 AM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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If you have an original Armstrong AC unit there are service ports. This would allow you to have a competent AC repair guy recharge the unit. It should use R12.
Parts are available to repair it, but there is not a conversion kit that I am aware of.
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Brett G
WBCCI #5501 AIR # 49
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1978 Argosy 28 foot Motorhome
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato
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07-07-2003, 09:21 AM
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Rivet Master
Austin
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First off I wouldn't suspect low refrigerant as being your problem. I would check to be sure the condenser fan is operating and verify that the compressor is running, then check the temp differentials and see how much it is cooling. I would say that the refrigerant circuit is very well sealed and not particularly prone to leakage.
Chas
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07-07-2003, 05:57 PM
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Still Working
1994 36' Classic 36
North Charleston
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Armstrong AC
My 1979 Armstrong has R-22
I bought a 30 lb bottle for 79 dollars and was told that I probably could not buy a 1 lb can.
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07-07-2003, 06:23 PM
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Rivet Master
Austin
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R-12?
Really, R-22?
I figured they all had R-12 in them.
Well, good news for all of us because last time I checked R-12 was running nearly a $1,000 a keg (30 lbs.)
What's that, like $30 some dollars a pound?
Chas
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07-07-2003, 06:51 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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Uhhhhh..........
I may have the numbers mixed up. I have been discussing Automotive AC this week on the Motorhome. That would explain why I have R-12 on the brain
Chas you have the price right, that is what the r-12 recharge is going to run, 30.00 / LB, 3 lbs min.
Well it's just money, I am fortunate to be young enough to make more, right?
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Brett G
WBCCI #5501 AIR # 49
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1978 Argosy 28 foot Motorhome
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato
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07-07-2003, 07:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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Re: what refrigerant for '77 A/C?
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Originally posted by EAP
Greetings.
We just returned from a three week trip through the steamy upper midwest (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa). We had to rely on a couple of fans to cool ourselves down in the 90+ degree heat as the A/C didn't work. I suspect that it needs refrigerant. I don't have the manual here, so can't quote the make and other specs. My basic question, however, is what refrigerant to use? With regulations about CFCs, is there a way to convert an older A/C unit to modern refrigerant? Or am I looking at investing in a new A/C? Everthing else seems to work fine (switches, blower, etc.).
TIA for advice.
Eugenie
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07-07-2003, 07:27 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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My service manual says armstrong unit requires R-22
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