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Old 07-12-2005, 07:24 AM   #29
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annette,
your only option, if you have a low voltage condition, is to not run your a/c low voltage will cause your machine to work harder pulling more amps creating heat which in turn causes the insulation on the compressor motor windings to melt, and short out. then you are toast...if the tech does not properly clean out the system- burnt insulation reacts with the refrigerant, and becomes acid, which will attack the windings in the new compressor-you will wind up with another failure....keep us posted as to what service was performed and parts used.
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:27 AM   #30
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Hi, Annette,

I have a Hughes autoformer that I use in the park where I live in in southeast Georgia. It's in boost mode almost all of the time, and almost always at night when everybody comes home and turns the A/C on. The big problems here happen when two or three SOB buses arrive with three air conditioners and think they can run them all from the park's supply. Ploosh! There goes the juice.

I got the autoformer to protect my vintage Armstrong A/C, which is much happier at 115 V than it was at 105. I just looked, and at 8:30 AM it's already in boost. Geez, it's 74 degrees out there -- I oughta open the windows.

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Old 07-12-2005, 09:47 AM   #31
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My favorite AC switch setting meat locker (also the reason I switched from the Penguin AC unit to the 15k btu DuoTherm air conditioner).
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Just an FYI there is a 15K Penguin available now. I think they finally started producing them in 2002 or 2003.

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Old 07-12-2005, 11:04 AM   #32
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Just an FYI there is a 15K Penguin available now. I think they finally started producing them in 2002 or 2003.

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Hi Jack,

Yep, there sure is... and was, even when I installed my unit all of two years ago.

Sadly, it was (and is) only available for a ducted air conditioner.

Thanks, anyway, for the gracious assistance.
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Hi Jack,

Yep, there sure is... and was, even when I installed my unit all of two years ago.

Sadly, it was (and is) only available for a ducted air conditioner.

Thanks, anyway, for the gracious assistance.
Johnny,

Another FYI, the 15K Penguin available today doesn't require ducts. I've got one in my Classic which was built in October 2003.

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Old 07-12-2005, 12:27 PM   #34
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Johnny,

Another FYI, the 15K Penguin available today doesn't require ducts. I've got one in my Classic which was built in October 2003.

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Me too on our Safari build date 12/03.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:35 PM   #35
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:37 PM   #36
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Jack and "Silvertwinkie",

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Johnny,

Another FYI, the 15K Penguin available today doesn't require ducts. I've got one in my Classic which was built in October 2003.

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So very sorry. I was going by the Dometic catalog (current), Dometic web site (verified today), and FTF statements by the AS service manager (as recently as last November).

Thanks for the correction.

I will replace my unit with the 15k Penguin immediately. Anyone interested in a two-year-old, non-ducted DuoTherm 15,000 btu unit? It's never been raced.
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I will replace my unit with the 15k Penguin immediately. Anyone interested in a two-year-old, non-ducted DuoTherm 15,000 btu unit? It's never been raced.

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Silvertwinkie,

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So pleased to entertain.

The offer is serious, though. Despite the bigger numbers for performance and efficiency for the Brisk Air High Efficiency unit, I will be looking to swap AC units as soon as I am able provided that the 15k Penguin unit is able to use an install shield available for my AS model and use the AS inner condensate drain path.

The big minus of non-Penguin installs is the inability to use the AS drain path. I just don't like having the condensate run off the exterior of the AS.

I was willing to buy the 15k Penguin in 2003, was willing to replace the one-year-old unit in 2004, and am certainly happy to replace it in 2005. Airstream factory service said (repeatedly) "no way," Camping World said "not available," and the Dometic phone service center said "nope."

If the unit is now available for aftermarket installation, then I am there.

The Dometic factory service center is no longer taking voice calls (as of fifteen minutes ago) and the recording only offers menus to locate factory-authorized service locations. Camping World still says not available (as of 10 minutes ago), but they usually know much less than the catalog.

I haven't tried calling AS factory service yet. I know already that the factory installers install stuff that is not (yet?) available for aftermarket. The factory service folks are separate from (several hundred yards away, in a different building) the factory installers and typically find out about new features/equipment after it comes in for factory service.

And I was serious about one other thing the unit really has never been raced.

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Old 07-12-2005, 03:56 PM   #39
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Johnny, I would think that the factory service center can fix you up on this. I'm not sure of what it will cost you though. $$$ I'm not sure if the 15K ductless unit was developed as a natural evolution of the product or whether Airstream had some influence here. I do know that the 13.5K Penguin AC units were marginal on any trailer 27 ft and up once you got above 95 degrees in sunny areas. Once you got into the 34' size the 13.5K unit was pretty stressed.

That Brisk-Air unit that you own is a real workhorse. I had a 13.5K unit on my 28' SOB and it did a great job.

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Old 07-12-2005, 03:59 PM   #40
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Guys, if Annette likes her current park and wants to stay, could a simple solution be as simple as moving to another site? I am definately a dummy when it comes to anything electrical but if she is at the end of a loop or run or whatever and there is a line drop or there are more units on her circuit than optimal might she be getting less than she needs? If she were closer to the main transformer might she get more or cleaner A/C that might provide better voltage? If this is the case, the park owner might have a space that would work better. I mean if the line she is own is taxed to the max and everybody's compressor comes on at the same time it is putting a drain on the fuse or breaker box to begin with and the park owner would be better off to allow the move. The owner might not even know if there is an overload on her particular circuit. Maybe I'm totally off.
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So pleased to entertain.

The offer is serious, though.
I thought you were kidding.


I'm very pleased with our Penguin 15k unit and I'm sure you'll be too.
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If this is the case, the park owner might have a space that would work better. I mean if the line she is own is taxed to the max and everybody's compressor comes on at the same time it is putting a drain on the fuse or breaker box to begin with and the park owner would be better off to allow the move. The owner might not even know if there is an overload on her particular circuit. Maybe I'm totally off.
I have seen this situation before. The folks at the begining of the loop had fairly good power and the further down you went the worse it became. I remember measuring 94 volts at my site. Problem was we were at a unit rally and the park was full. While the owner was informed of the problem, there wasn't much he could do over the weekend. The park was a former KOA, all underground wiring.

I had a situation in Destin Florida where I measured 105 volts. The site was one of the best ones in the campground. When I informed the front desk, the guy disagreed that this was a problem. Of course he already had my money and was quite willing to sell my spot to someone else.

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