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Old 02-09-2007, 05:36 PM   #15
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Not the ones shown in the post (#4) above. They are designed for interior use and have a low O2 shut-off in case there were a problem. They emit no CO. (Carbon Monoxide) Crack a window for ventilation
My first one had problems operating at elevations above 7,500 ft. because of the " low O2 shut-off ". My second one has worked fine at elevations up to 9,000 ft..

As for proper ventilation, NO problemo with a tent trailer.

BTW, I usually get about 7 - 8 hrs. use, per each 1 lb. cylinder running on HIGH temp. setting.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:28 PM   #16
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even if it isn't a fabric "mat", there must be a platinum catalyst in there somewhere; this is what makes the chemical reaction that allows combustion without CO.
Thanks Chuck. I guess if I had thought it through.
I've replace the platinum covered ceramic beads in many a G.M. catalytic converter.

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My first one had problems operating at elevations above 7,500 ft. because of the " low O2 shut-off ". My second one has worked fine at elevations up to 9,000 ft..
They say that they are not for use above 7000'. I guess you got lucky! I suppose there is a fudge factor built in. Thanks for the info Mark.

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Old 02-09-2007, 07:11 PM   #17
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hi steve

are you planning to add a gray water tank? is the plumbing to be replaced?
i assume since the frame/floor are going in new all/most systems and applicances will be replaced like the water heater?

i'll also assume you are considering no central heating to save money.

while you may not anticipate cold camping it does happen. so does boondocking.

resale happens too.

one of the key features of airstreams has been the heat ducted to the pipes/tanks and so on.

it seems to me leaving out central heating isn't wise.

this system would be a challenge and expensive to retrofit later.

i've used catalytic heaters in a/s for 20 years. it is a nifty add on. but doesnt' replace the furnace.

you will be giving up a key feature by leaving out ducted heat. imagine buying a house with no indoor plumbing.

cat heaters DO have issues with moisture, O2 depeletion, space requirements, child safety and so on.

ceramic space heaters need juice and aren't designed for full duty heating...

replacement rv furnaces aren't expensive and last a long time. if you don't want an lpgas model diesel models are available

just another view...

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there is also the option of marine style free standing fire place/furnace. these are retro cool and DO make lots of heat....

several threads with photos here...
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:47 PM   #18
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hi steve

are you planning to add a gray water tank? is the plumbing to be replaced?
i assume since the frame/floor are going in new all/most systems and applicances will be replaced like the water heater?

i'll also assume you are considering no central heating to save money.

while you may not anticipate cold camping it does happen. so does boondocking.

resale happens too.

one of the key features of airstreams has been the heat ducted to the pipes/tanks and so on.

it seems to me leaving out central heating isn't wise.

this system would be a challenge and expensive to retrofit later.

i've used catalytic heaters in a/s for 20 years. it is a nifty add on. but doesnt' replace the furnace.

you will be giving up a key feature by leaving out ducted heat. imagine buying a house with no indoor plumbing.

cat heaters DO have issues with moisture, O2 depeletion, space requirements, child safety and so on.

ceramic space heaters need juice and aren't designed for full duty heating...

replacement rv furnaces aren't expensive and last a long time. if you don't want an lpgas model diesel models are available

just another view...

cheers
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there is also the option of marine style free standing fire place/furnace. these are retro cool and DO make lots of heat....

several threads with photos here...
2Air,

The lp and plumbing has all been removed....pretty much everything is out of that trailer. As for the central heating. There are two vents coming out of the center of the floor in the front and in the rear. Neither of these really provide heat to the tank area, unless you consider the air that gets force under the cracks.

I really like the marine stoves, but I am curious how difficult it would be to install.

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hi soldiermedic

well that is why i asked about holding tanks and IF you are adding to this system

there are a couple of good threads on marine stoves...

no doubt you've seen these.

http://www.airforums.com/forum...am-20451.html?


http://www.airforums.com/forum...ud-18950.html?

i cannot recall the best one. a gal with a vintage trailer and stove...

but it's here somewhere....

then there is this site....sweet!

'55 Airstream 26' LOA.

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ok i knew it was a gal's name...patti pearl's trailer with another sweet marine stove...

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Old 02-09-2007, 09:04 PM   #20
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hi steve

i've used catalytic heaters in a/s for 20 years. it is a nifty add on. but doesnt' replace the furnace.

you will be giving up a key feature by leaving out ducted heat. imagine buying a house with no indoor plumbing.

cat heaters DO have issues with moisture, O2 depeletion, space requirements, child safety and so on.

ceramic space heaters need juice and aren't designed for full duty heating...

replacement rv furnaces aren't expensive and last a long time. if you don't want an lpgas model diesel models are available

just another view...

cheers 2air'
mr. 2; et al,

i love good options...

especially OP's...

in my case, i like my other heating options in the blond, blue variety.

most any brand will do.

not cheap to operate, often times short fused, but you have to weigh in on the benifits and well, you can see where this is headed.

but i knew y'all knew that...

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Does it count if it isnt "NATURALLY BLOND" ?
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:47 PM   #22
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My friend old trailer (fifties vintage beast with solid wood panl. actually had a small pot belly stove installed with an outside air feeder. Fed it small logs and we never died
I just purchased my replacement air with a heat strip...since then read some comments question a heat strips ability to keep an AS warm, but seemed like a good idea at the time. Not much more to add to the cost of the air. My gas heater was removed bythe PO. I'll probably replace in time.
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:49 PM   #23
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I would think not naturally blond still counts. Let me ask my wife..
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:54 PM   #24
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Over Decorating... Other Heating Options...

i love to decorate my 'stream.

in regards to over options and warmth,

i prefer that the drapes and carpets match.

it could be a west coast vs east coast thing,

as in personal prefrences.

just a thought,

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Old 02-16-2007, 05:50 PM   #25
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I have the small Mr.Heater pictured above. It is not a catalytic. The PO of mine installed a catalytic next to the door (hard piped to the system) and I was using a catalytic mounted to the top of a 20lb bottle. Today, I realised how stupid I've been. In reading many articles on CO levels, O2 depletion, etc. IT IS NOT WORTH THE RISKS! Seriously, rebuild or replace your furnace. Your health and the health of others camping with you should be your first priority, then their comfort. If you can't afford to fix or replace yours with a unit that is not open to the interior, you need to not be camping in it yet. It's that simple. I say this fussing at myself more than anyone here because I'm guilty of doing it myself. If you plan to camp where AC electricity is available, get a couple of ceramic electric heaters. Again, safety first. There are not too many safe places to put electric space heaters either and you will eventually be tired of the noise, so plan on fixing the original furnace or replacing it asap.
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The Mr. Heater is approved for indoor use and is widely used for such.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:42 AM   #27
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I have a small Mr. Heater unit running right now in my living room, in front of the fireplace this morning as it is 20 degrees in Florida!!
The only problem with these units is the fact that a 1 lb bottle of propane only lasts 3 hours on high and 6 hours on low. They are getting $7 for two of these bottles at CVS and Publix. Wal-Mart has them for $4.50. They used to be a buck a piece at WM!! You can refill with an adaptor, and I think I am going to start doing that. I love the heater!
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Mikell, I don't know what you've been reading, but

a)it IS a catalytic heater

b) there is no undue "risk" of asphixiation when using them in an RV. A properly working and adequately ventilated catalytic heater does NOT give off CO.
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