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Old 05-06-2013, 05:45 PM   #71
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AC leak

We have a 2011 International that the AC would dump water under the right conditions. I removed the cover underneath the unit, and with a little research, found a hole in the drain pan (it's not really a pan) that was the result of an errant drill bit during installation. Once I showed the problem to the dealer they were able to replace the pan, and no I received no diagnostic fee. We are 6 hours from the dealer we purchased from..... things that make you go,hmmm.

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Old 05-06-2013, 08:58 PM   #72
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Is it possble to clean up the caulking around the drain connection?
You can't get to the inside of the drain pan without going on the roof and removing the exterior shroud then removing the evaporator housing. Maybe then you can get to it but the blower squirrel cage housing seems very close. I'm not sure you could get a tool in there to clean up the caulk.

I'm spent a lot for this trailer and I couldn't sell it without a guilty conscious until I fixed this issue. So I will bite the bullet to have the AC removed and the other drain system installed if I find this summer my Airstream develops a second shower. The question is will the local AS dealer just look at me like a deer in headlights and not know what I'm talking about.

So with all the thousands of AS out there is every owner just carrying a mop with them and sucking it up or is this problem not as widespread as we think.

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You can't get to the inside of the drain pan without going on the roof and removing the exterior shroud then removing the evaporator housing. Maybe then you can get to it but the blower squirrel cage housing seems very close. I'm not sure you could get a tool in there to clean up the caulk.

I'm spent a lot for this trailer and I couldn't sell it without a guilty conscious until I fixed this issue. So I will bite the bullet to have the AC removed and the other drain system installed if I find this summer my Airstream develops a second shower. The question is will the local AS dealer just look at me like a deer in headlights and not know what I'm talking about.

So with all the thousands of AS out there is every owner just carrying a mop with them and sucking it up or is this problem not as widespread as we think.

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My 34' has a 90's Dometic on the front and a 2 year old one on the rear. The 2 units are completely different looking under the shroud. The new one DUMPS water when the fan shuts off, this is when overflow happens and the bed gets wet. IMHO, the 2 year old one has a design that holds water in the evaporator as long as air is flowing (bad). Once the fan shuts off, GLUG, if it can make it down the drain, the flow looks like a water hose. If not, it's time to sleep on wet sheets.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:32 AM   #74
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dump the drain pan !!!!!!!!

Why is it that Airstream is the ONLY RV company using such a device and seems to be the only one that has drainage problems???????

Not to mention that the thin wall, NON-REINFORCED junk drain line that they use does not help the situation at all!!!!!

Also Interesting that as of several 2012 models I have seen, the drain pan HAS BEEN DUMPED!! in favor of the DOMETIC AUXILIARY DRAIN KIT that every other RV manufacturer that installs Penguins with internal drain lines uses.
Lew,

Is this the "kit" of which you speak?

Pretty basic looking, for the price Dometic is charging.

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Old 05-07-2013, 06:46 AM   #75
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Is this the "kit" of which you speak?

Pretty basic looking, for the price Dometic is charging.

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That is the exact part. It is not rocket science to install it. Just be careful not to kink The thin wall, non re-inforced substandard drain tube that you will find in your Airstream's ceiling. Maybe get a 1/2" X 1/2" barb by barb 90º elbow to make the transition and you should be fine!
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So all our 2000 model year Penquin IIs can be modified to use this drain tube system? My AS is 2008 so its probably a 2007 vintage AC unit. The evaporator is above the drip pan and water trickles down into the pan then out the hole. I don't understand on that link the second photo. I see the round hole and I guess a drip cup is mounted below that hole and the same on the other side and then to the T which goes into the AS drain hose. How does the evaporator water get diverted to those outside holes? Is the orignal drain pan removed and another part installed?

Also I see the plastic tube goes through the gasket. Is there any danger of the tube getting squished when the lower mounting plate is tightened down.

I would sure be nice to have addtional photos so if I need this done I can then confer with the RV technician who will do the work. Right now I can't see how just adding the cups and the tubes and T sections is all you need.

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Old 05-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #77
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I found this photo of the top of what I think is the Penguin II low profile. The evaporator comparment is in the front. Looks like you have to remove the foam strip. It appears the cover will come off the question is whether you can do anything once its' off. I would be nice to find a photo with the evaporator exposed.

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Unfortunately, I just last week scrapped a couple of older Penguin units that I replaced due to lack of remaining refrigerant that had the aux. drip kits installed on them. I know a picture is worth a thousand words.

I'll check in the shop to see if I have any 'dead Penguins' laying about and take a shot of the bottom. It will make a lot more sense if you see it from that angle.

When installing the auxiliary drip kit, there is no need to open the evaporator covering. In fact, there is no need to even remove the outer shroud at all. I never do unless it is a new unit in a multi-unit install and the replacement unit has to have the dip switches re-set to it's new environment.

Stay tuned!
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We have never had this problem with our AC leaking, but that may be totally attributable to the low humidity we enjoy in the SW part of the country. It's not a problem that looks like one that's fun to deal with.
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I'm going out this weekend. Temps will be in the 80s and there is a chance of thunderstorms. If it starts to drip I'll drop the air distribution and mounting plate. I want to see where the water is coming from. I'll take photos.

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Old 05-08-2013, 02:15 PM   #81
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Just pulled my 2010 FC 900+ miles from PA to AL. Mid-80s temps. Turned on the AC and...
It works for 10 minutes then the blower shuts off (but not the compressor). Same issue as last year. Took it to a Dometic service center and they "could not replicate the problem".
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Just pulled my 2010 FC 900+ miles from PA to AL. Mid-80s temps. Turned on the AC and...
It works for 10 minutes then the blower shuts off (but not the compressor). Same issue as last year. Took it to a Dometic service center and they "could not replicate the problem".
Disconnect all power Ac and Dc. Power up again (reboot). Does that help?
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No, it didn't.
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Of course the AC is out of warranty so I'm going to cut my losses and replaced it.. Question; what would be a decent replacement model for a 2010 FC (27' FB).
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