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Old 08-21-2004, 11:29 AM   #15
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I know that CW does NOT know where to cut the hole and they do not want to do it. I have cut the hole, it is not hard, getting the unit up there is. CW is not into doing a high quality install. Terry's unit is not mounted straight and they will not correct it. Their excuse is a square AC on a round trailer is just not going to fit well.

The Dometic drain pan will help to make the curve flat, but then you will need to buy a Dometic penguin. The Carrier seems to fit, but does not drain thru the inner tube.
Exactly, I am very happy with the A/C, not so with the install. It doesn't leak, but looks tilted, CW says that is as good as it gets. I disagree, but all they will do to correct it is if I return it, they will refund my money. Pretty much a non-option.
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Old 08-21-2004, 02:56 PM   #16
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Exactly, I am very happy with the A/C, not so with the install. It doesn't leak, but looks tilted, CW says that is as good as it gets. I disagree, but all they will do to correct it is if I return it, they will refund my money. Pretty much a non-option.
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Maybe you should try another repair place. Maybe someone else has enough intellegence to know how to get it sdjusted right so it doesn't look cocked.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:09 PM   #17
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I was wondering if anyone has installed one of the Carrier Air V A/C units on an Airstream of Argosy?
I am getting ready to buy one from a local place that has gone out of business. It is brand new in the box. About half the price of a brand new one normally!
What about a drip pan?
Please give me some HELP....
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:45 AM   #18
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Lou, Inland RV sells Carrier for install on Airstreams & Argosy. Some Carrier models do not require a drain or drip pan.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:30 AM   #19
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I have just about finished installing a Dometic Penguin A/C on my '66 Globe Trotter. On the outside I used a drip pan that conforms to the curvature of the roof, but on the inside the air box is designed for a flat ceiling and doesn't conform to the curvature. Is there an adaptor I can buy that fits between the ceiling and airbox so that it fits properly?
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:40 AM   #20
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Messages got off subject, but assuming you're still planning to install roof A/C, I'd drive down and talk to or call shop mgr at Manteca Trailers, 250 yards east of State 99 on State 120.. They are a large and competent Airstream Dealer/Shop, and can assist with decision about drain tube (use or don't use with "splash" and dribble down sides) and Dometic Penguin v. Coleman v. Carrier... They're less than an hour away, and same owner as local dealer in South Sacramento, but shop work done there.. As for electricity, wiring and circuitry probably there and OK, so long as you can't be in position to run A/C and Microwave oven at same time on same circuit. Airstream mounts hidden switches in kitchen cabinets to prevent using both at once on their factory installs... They're getting ready to move into newer larger quarters another 1/4 mile or so east of Hwy 99, which should raise shop rates but might make services easier to schedule...

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Old 02-24-2005, 01:03 AM   #21
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Lou, Inland RV sells Carrier for install on Airstreams & Argosy. Some Carrier models do not require a drain or drip pan.
I will have to ask Andy.
I bought a bunch of stuff from him back in the summer. He talked me through a lot of things. Spent a long time on the phone with me.
I have been repairing and renovating my own Airstreams/Argosys since I was 16. So Andy and I can talk for hours and I would not get tired.
I figure that if I am going to do the job, I might as well do it right the first time.
Thanks, Forrest!
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Old 02-27-2005, 01:09 AM   #22
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Well, Andy was little to no help.
Back in August of last year he sent me a PM that he had all of the info I needed and the unit I needed.
The problem was that Andy's price was way outside my budget. So, I did without an A/C unit last year.
This winter I got the itch to start looking into them again and I found out that one of our local dealers was going out of business. I stopped by and found the 13.5k Carrier unit in the box and priced at $400! I told them I would be back with the cash and when I returned an hour later it was gone!
I then went online and found a place in Florida selling the 13.5k Carrier with a heat strip for $434 plus $69 shipping to anywhere in the lower 48! For $508 I got a new A/C unit coming to my door. They also have the 15k Carrier for $499! If anyone wants the information on where to get the A/C for that price please feel free to PM me.
I asked Andy from Inland about the info he was so willing to give me in the past and now he says to call Airstream. It sure is funny how that has changed now....
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Old 02-27-2005, 01:24 AM   #23
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Here is a bad example...

I found this picture on the web. It shows where you should not mount the A/S on an Argosy 20!
They probably even used the 12VDC wiring from the exhaust fan that was there! YIKES!
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:22 AM   #24
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I have a Coleman Mach in my 1972.
I do not remember what the instructions said to do but I think they advised "no drain hose required".
These Colemans REALLY need a drain hose as the water pours down the side.
It may not need one in the desert but just about anywhere else will need one.

I did my install myself and will tell you one thing.............DO NOT ever try it by yourself. You will be sore for a while if you try.
Imagine climbing a latter with one hand and pulling up a large AC unit with the other hand.....all the while not letting the heavy AC unit scratch any Alumnium panels along the way. Good thing I am young and strong or that AC unit would have had to install itself!

One more thing..If you get a heat strip in a Coleman, don't expect it to heat the trailer. The heat strips only "knock the chill off" and that's it.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:33 PM   #25
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re-using existing drip pan.

will I be able to re-use the original drain pan on my limited? I bought a new penguin and I would like to reuse the pan. Can I carefully remove the old unit without damaging the existing pan or is it stuck together with vulcem between the pan and the a/c unit?
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:28 PM   #26
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Hi Guys,

There are lots of ways to get an A/C unit up to roof level. I now work alone and change out a roof unit on MoHos and trailers about once a week! I have used 4 methods, and they have evolved accordingly.

1. Using a straight ladder, lean it against the trailer with a well padded 2 X 6 in between the ladder and trailer. With the unit still in the box, wrap a heavy nylon strap around the box and place it at the base of the ladder. With one person (me) on the roof with strap in hand, I start to lift the unit in the box (usually 120 lbs) while a helper starts to lift from the bottom, eventually pushing it as you pull. The entire job takes less than a minute!!

2. Go to your local equipment rental place and rent an air conditioner lift. It will easily hanadle your A/C unit, and if you are on pavement, will easily roll under the trailer, placing the unit within easy reach for you to move it from the lift to the trailer roof. They usually rent for about $100. This works well, but the rental place was very unreliable with delivery for my tight schedule, so I had to go with #3.

3. Using method #1 wiith no one else around, secure the ladder in place with straps so it doesn't slide into the trailer and lift it up the incline by yourself (I do this now on a regular basis) using a hand-over-hand grip on the strap and a set of heavy gloves.

4. I now use a modified method #1, but have invested $125 for a 120VAC winch motor with 220lb. capacity. Had a set of extensions made from aluminum tubing that fits the top of the ladder, and now I stand on the roof with a remote in my hand and wait for the winch to raise the unit to the roof. I just have to manuver it off the incline and the rest is easy!

Feel free to PM me if you need any other info..............................

PS: the A/C manufacturers give me only 1 HOUR!!!! to remove an old unit and replace it with a new one, wiring included, when doing a warranty replacement. I've got it down to about 50 minutes!!!
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will I be able to re-use the original drain pan on my limited? I bought a new penguin and I would like to reuse the pan.
Rick,

Won't know until you get there. I've heard of it being done both ways. Could be a regular gasket, or it could be three tubes of Vulkem.

I don't know what method the factory uses.
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It helps to have a boat Being impatient, I used a fully extended ladder as a long ramp, easily slid the AC using the bottom of the box up the ladder to the top of the boat, then across a short ladder to the trailer. Used the same set up to remove the old ac. Worked like a charm and I did not die in the process If an old goat with a year old tripple bypass can do it...anyone can!
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