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Old 12-15-2015, 12:51 PM   #15
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Have you considered using an automobile heater core + fan and plumbing it into the hot water heater? A cheap 12 volt recirculating pump to keep the hot water moving would complete the install. No furnace required. Argosy Rover did radiant heating in the floor using pipes laid on the sub floor, insulating foam between the pipes and a floor laid on top of that. The water circulating pump was wired to the thermostat. According to him the water heater was up to the task.
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Old 12-15-2015, 03:46 PM   #16
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Have you considered using an automobile heater core + fan and plumbing it into the hot water heater? A cheap 12 volt recirculating pump to keep the hot water moving would complete the install. No furnace required. Argosy Rover did radiant heating in the floor using pipes laid on the sub floor, insulating foam between the pipes and a floor laid on top of that. The water circulating pump was wired to the thermostat. According to him the water heater was up to the task.
Radiant floor heat in an Airstream doesn't, by itself, provide enough heat in cold weather.

There are a number of problems using heater cores on fresh (drinking) water systems. The largest problem is that they are prone to corrosion and early failure when used with fresh water, because the water does not contain a corrosion inhibitor and because there is dissolved oxygen entering the water. They may also contain components, particularly lead, that are not safe for contact with drinking water. The system as a whole ends up being heavy and complex compared to better alternatives.

I like hot water heat and have lived in two different stick houses that have it. I do not believe it is a good choice for an RV.
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:27 PM   #17
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I installed the heater in a '55 cloud under the bed with the exhaust in the rear corner. Reasons...
Under the sink was full of water heater.
Under the fridge didn't have enough room or the microwave wouldn't fit above it.
And, where it is now, the exhaust port is not under an awning or window.

It has 3 hot air vents. One exits from under the bed and is pointed at the bathroom. One routes forward, under the pantry and point toward the kitchen. The last routes even farther forward and exits the wall by the door and blows toward the dinette.
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:39 PM   #18
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I installed the heater in a '55 cloud under the bed with the exhaust in the rear corner. Reasons...
Under the sink was full of water heater.
Under the fridge didn't have enough room or the microwave wouldn't fit above it.
And, where it is now, the exhaust port is not under an awning or window.

It has 3 hot air vents. One exits from under the bed and is pointed at the bathroom. One routes forward, under the pantry and point toward the kitchen. The last routes even farther forward and exits the wall by the door and blows toward the dinette.
My furnace will go under the sink and my water heater is under the bed with exhaust in the rear corner. Both on street side.
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:50 PM   #19
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My furnace will go under the sink and my water heater is under the bed with exhaust in the rear corner. Both on street side.

That's a good plan. This '55 has the bed on the curb side so sticking the water heater under it would have been a real hassle.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:49 AM   #20
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That's a good plan. This '55 has the bed on the curb side so sticking the water heater under it would have been a real hassle.
Mine has the bed across the back. I put the LP water heater near where the old electric one was. Vents out the street side, and easy tie in to water main. Did have to run LP line though..
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:12 AM   #21
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It was 22 degrees last night, it does a great job.


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Old 12-17-2015, 10:23 AM   #22
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What heater make and model is that?
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:35 AM   #23
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Wow. Picked up a Suburban 19,000 BTU furnace for under $300 on EBay. The Williams unit looks like it needs 110VAC for the fan. If I have shore power I can just run my heat pump.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:32 PM   #26
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Agree about the catalytic heater. One came with the trailer and my wife refuses to use it so it is gone. On closer examination it appears I can put the furnace under the kitchen counter by giving up the lowest drawer. I feel better about having the exhaust vent on the street side as opposed to the curb side where we sit under the awning. Can tie into LP for stove but will have to run 12 volt wiring to that location.
Tex,

Double check your water heater space when you get that Suburban in hand to measure it & the fittings, cuz you may find it can tuck in nicely next to the water heater, "Y" off the gas & 12V already there, vent out the same place as the water heater (door or wall vent) - plus not give up that drawer space under the fridge - with space so precious in these smaller AS/Vintage Kin trailers.

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For those thinking about a Dickinson Marine fireplace (its official name is the Newport) there are a couple of propane units for sale around the country on Craigslist - and priced quite reasonably.

We already have ours, and would love to see more Airstreamers make use of these!

Santa Fe, NM:
Propane heater/ fire place

Cincinnati, OH:
Dickinson Marine P9000 Propane Heater

Juneau, AK or Shelton, WA (conflicting info)
P-9000 Dickinson Propane cabin heater
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For those thinking about a Dickinson Marine fireplace (its official name is the Newport) there are a couple of propane units for sale around the country on Craigslist - and priced quite reasonably.

We already have ours, and would love to see more Airstreamers make use of these!

Santa Fe, NM:
Propane heater/ fire place

Cincinnati, OH:
Dickinson Marine P9000 Propane Heater

Juneau, AK or Shelton, WA (conflicting info)
P-9000 Dickinson Propane cabin heater
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