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Old 08-09-2012, 07:12 PM   #15
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I guess you know you've been in a camp spot long enough when the resident wasps decide to make home in your AC. It was sooooo hot on Lopez Island here in the San Juan Islands of Washington state that I finally broke down and decided to turn on the AC. Happy as clams we were inside where it was nice and cool but all of a sudden we noticed all these wasps appearing on the exterior of windows.

Then one came in through the AC and that was it.

I went outside to have a look at what was happening and low and behold a swarm of them were buzzing around the unit obviously very well annoyed that the AC had been turned on.

B and I left the island on the next ferry back home to the mainland and hubby stayed behind to try and remedy the situation.

His solution? Hook her up to the truck and drive around the island in hopes of "blowing" them out. He called me the following morning proudly announcing they were "gone."

So here we are, back on the mainland with Airstream and I guess we still have few residents left.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of them without using bug spray? We don't want to inhale the chemicals...
If your AC is a dual system, this worked for me. I closed the interior vents and powered up the Heat Pump and ran it for 15 minutes. While outside of the AS I watched to see if critters left due to the heat. Also, make sure that you put wire vents over all furnace, hot water heater, fridge fan openings. Wasps and bees live to set up home in the heating tubes, etc.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:35 PM   #16
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I use starting fluid, which is ether. Any auto parts store or gas mart sells it. It shoots about 6 feet in a stream and will drop them in their tracks. I then step on them as it doesn't kill them all. It evaporates almost immediately, so no oily or sticky residue.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:51 PM   #17
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As a less smelly / chemically reactive alternative, we have found that "409" and "Windex" spray kill the wasps around here in less than 10 seconds ... not instantaneous, but far less likely to cause damage to fiberglass or vinyl trim. If they are not swarming it works well. We have also tried "WD-40" and have had good luck on wasps; however, none of these products shoots a stream very far. I am exceedingly cautious around wasps and also carry an epi-pen in case of an allergic response to a sting. Reminder that wasps can sting you multiple times!
Beat me to the post! Wasp stings vs. a few nasty chemicals - NO CONTEST. I had a wasp get me on the side of the head two weaks ago.. Stung three times... and I went along looking like a parasitic twin's head was going to burst out of the side of mine for days. HURT!!!! Kill the little imps of Satan and don't be fussy about your choice of weapon.

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Old 08-10-2012, 05:01 AM   #18
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Wasp sting remedy

Take the tobacco out of a cigarette and wet it and apply over the sting. Sal.
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Help :( Wasp Nest in our AC

I have resided in rural areas for the past 40 years during 30 of which I have RVed. Battling wasps and mud daubers is an ongoing issue both with the Airstreams and our home. This is one case where I don't hesitate with the chemicals . . . read a carefully followlabel directions and all should turn out well. Our usual procedure with the Airstream or Argosy when we find a wasp or mud dauber problem in the rooftop air conditioner, we start by setting off two or more bug bombs inside the coach with the air conditioner running on high . . . allow the chemicals to do their thing inside the closed coach with the air conditioner running. Once six or more hours have elapsed (usually overnight), we observe the coach from the distance to note whether there are any insects continuing to swarm around the coach . . . if so, we repeat the process. The idea is that the running air conditioner will eventually disuade the wasps/mud daubers and the bug bombs keep the determined fliers discouraged from entering the interior. Once the swarming has ended, we then spray each of the wasp/mud dauber favored openings with wasp/mud dauber/hornet spray while keeping a safe distance with a ready escape path . . . the openings that we spray include door handle (Argosy), furnace intake/exhaust (both coaches), entire interior of water heater (both coaches), wheel wells (both coaches), battery compartment (Argosy), bumper ends (Airstream), bumper storage compartment (Argosy), any gaps in bellypan (both coaches), drop-down step (Airstream), and hidden areas of hitch (both coaches). If thre appears to have been a severe infestation of the air conditioner unit, once the remediation steps have been taken, the coach it towed to our local RV dealer to have the air conditioner serviced wth the advisory that we have just taken action to evict the wasps/mud daubers.

The side benefit of utilizing this method at the beginning of each season, we have rarly had issues with any kinds of bugs inside of the coach . . . and mice don't seem to like the bug bombs either. We travel with our tiny toy dogs (Poodle and Chihuahua) and are very cautious with chemicals that might harm them, but have never had any problem as we follow the label directions very carefully.

Good luck in evicing your unwanted insects!

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I heard they dont like Vinegar. You could try straight Vinegar spray.
I would be hesitant to use vinegar, it is an acid and might etch your aluminum skin.
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I am deathly allergic to wasp stings. Two weeks ago I spent the night in the emergency room after being attacked by a mob of wasp in my backyard and getting 4 stings on my hand and forearm. My hand is still not feeling or working right. So as far as I am concerned I could care less about the environment when it comes to killing wasp. In fact I look for "not for sale in the state of California" when shopping for bug sprays or pretty much any product. Kill them all and let God sort it out as far as I am concerned. Big fan of the Raid Wasp killer, knocks them right out of the sky from 15 feet.
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Shoo-fly wasp and hornet spray - allows alot of distance between the bugs and you.
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If your AC is a dual system, this worked for me. I closed the interior vents and powered up the Heat Pump and ran it for 15 minutes. While outside of the AS I watched to see if critters left due to the heat. Also, make sure that you put wire vents over all furnace, hot water heater, fridge fan openings. Wasps and bees live to set up home in the heating tubes, etc.
If your goal is to HEAT the outside part of the unit, it should be running in AC mode. That'll chill the inside coils and heat the outside ones. If you run it in heat-pump mode, it heats the interior coils and cools the outside ones, to the point that when ambient temps are low the outside coils will often ice up and the unit will have to go through a sometimes-noisy process of de-icing them.

Parts of the unit will always heat up just due to the energy required to run the fans and compressor, of course, whichever direction the unit is running.
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Those wasps are really horrible I have to say from reading some of the experiences you have all went through. Scares me! I have never been stung by one and I never ever want to. I also didn't know they can sting multiple times -- goodness!

They are really vile little creatures. I was amazed that while having breakfast outdoors one of the little buggers flew onto my plate and literally picked up a piece of BREAKFAST SAUSAGE and flew off with it! The sausage was ten times bigger than the wasp and off it went....it was a bizarre sight indeed.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:52 PM   #25
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I'm highly reactive but not hyperallergic to these stings. ANYONE can develop sensitivity without warning, and if you're already sensitive, it tends to get worse. Anaphalactic Shock is what kills you - your diaphram and/or the air sacs in your lungs become paralyzed and you cannot breathe.

Once you've been diagnosed as hyper allergic, your doctor should prescribe an "epi-pen" epinepherine injector, and train you how to use it. (It's basically slam it into a leg or arm muscle.)

FIRST AID TREATMENTS
I've included two OTC medicines in my first aid kit.
  • Benedril Liquid - reduces swelling and overall allergic reaction
  • Primatine Inhaler (epinepherine spray)
Brewed caffinated coffee is also helpful if you are far from an e/r.

BEES - bees die after they sting you. The stinger is barbed and the bees eject it along with half of their guts when they sting. To remove a bee stinger, always push it out from the point outward - that pushes the venom away from the open wound. Your fingernail or the edge of a credit card works fine to push stingers. Push the stingers out, push the venom out. Using tweezers or pinch and pull with your fingers INJECTS more venom!

WASPS sting again and again, they don't leave a stinger, just a small amount of venom, leaving the stings alone rarely hurts. You can simply suck the stings to pull some venom out.

The first thing you should do is use the epi-pen or the inhaler - The spray tastes like a dirty catbox smells - and it's hard to get it into the lungs, but if you get one good whiff and hold it for 10 seconds, it'll become possible to breathe almost instantly. Next a standard dose of Benedril, the start working on the stings while someone calls for an ambulance. It's a good idea to go to the emergency room even if the field treatment works 100% - bounce back symptoms can happen for hours and hospitals can do more to get you stable. If you're a long way to a hospital or feel you have to drive, start loading coffee into the person who has been stung. Sugar is fine but no cream (causes phlegm). The caffiene helps the lungs work.

If you ever see someone stung and don't have an inhaler or pen, CALL 911 FIRST, then remember the lungs are paralyzed - and the victim normally panics. The victim cannot EXHALE, so rather than CPR, you can talk them down - first we're going to bend you over, tighten your arms down and squeeeze your lungs down then I'm going to pull your arms way up over your head and bend you backwards, that will suck some air into your lungs. We'll keep doing it until your lungs start working again. Think of the victim's lungs as an accordian. The second the victim gets a little air in, the panic will start to subside. Getting some of the venom out will help but one person should always stick with the breathing and keep up 15 respirations per minute. The victim can lie down to breathe in, but you'll need them to be pulled up to squeeze it out. Many people can actually squeeze their own ribs in and out and help themselves once they realize exhaling is the real problem. Shouting "Does anybody have an asthma inhaler?" isn't a bad idea if you're in a public park, etc.

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Paula, good stuff, thank you. Are you an HM by any chance? This recent experience with the wasp stings really caught me off guard. When I was a kid I always carried epi-pens everywhere I went because of my reactions to bee and wasp stings. As I got older and not necessarily wiser I stopped carrying them. Scary stuff when your lungs stop working and your hand/arm swells to double size in a matter of minutes. I now carry epi-pens once again and plan on never being without them.
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Where I learned this stuff? Painful experience. I grew up on the edge of a small town and used to roam in the woods with my brother or sister - and sometimes alone. Got stung badly, and was probably about 4 miles from home and couldn't breathe. I just kinda figured out the mechanics of forcing my lungs to work thanks to my experience as a crash test dummy.
(My brother was a Boy Scout and he never got a merit badge that didn't involve me getting bandaged, splinted or saved from near drowning. This was BEFORE CPR - and you laid a victim face down, sat on the small of his back, pushed against his lungs with your hands and upper body weight, then pulled back on the upper arms until the victim's chest came off the ground.

Anyway I did figure out that I couldn't breathe in because my lungs were full - and was able to force air out then by raising my arms get some in. I got the stingers out, went home and put some kind of lotion on them.

I never went to the hospital because I hid the stings to avoid the big lecture - and mom didn't spot them for a day or two. By the next time it happened, we'd both figured out how severe those bee stings could be. I learned to get the stinger out immediately - and never had a super severe issue again. Of course the wasps on the side of the face - couldn't do anything but inhaler and Benedril. Uncomfortable as hell, but didn't get dangerous.

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A couple of additional points ... be cautious of the liquid "carrier" of the insect spray; if it evaporates quickly, there is a good chance that it will also soften at least the surface of any flexible plastic and many surface coatings with which it comes into contact. Almost any detergent / soap based product will suffocate and kill the wasps very quickly -but not immediate as in some of the more volatile based carriers. Be aware that some of those carriers may still also be flammable. We softened and stained the siding on our house with a "commercial" wasp killer spray provided by the power company (wasps are also drawn to the hum produced by transformers). You can buy a heavy duty yard / garden sprayer that will shoot a stream of liquid 10-15 feet (as opposed to just a hand spray bottle); however, the mist works best when they are out of the nest. Wasps are drawn to open cans of soda as well as an open sore or wound (or meat juices / barbeque residue as well as some "sweet" liquids) and have "attacked" (remember the multiple sting ability of wasps) just a cut in my finger - resulting in overnight IV medication. Be cautious when drinking from an open pop can in any area known to have wasps.

Also as indicated above, the reaction to the (multiple) wasp stings may be either local (swelling near the sting site) or systemic (life threatening) / anaphalactic shock accompanied by swelling / closure of the airways. Please - if you feel any respiratory distress, do NOT attempt to self-medicate; seek / call for prompt medical attention. Yes, from both personal experience and as an EMT with many years field experience. Caffeine, Benedril, inhalers will only mitigate the symptoms; IMO if you are truly experiencing an allergic systemic reaction, you will need the epi injection and/or qualified medical treatment. In my case, as I have gotten older, the cumulative effect of all those bee and wasp stings in my earlier years seems to have increased my sensitivity to the venom; we have -over the last few years - had a tremendous increase in the number and size of wasps here in Montana... even the wildland fire fighters are discovering the dangers of wasps!
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