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Old 01-17-2008, 05:03 PM   #57
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Very interesting topic. We live in a mild climate, rarely below 28 degrees. Our furnace does not work at present and would require pulling the stove, sink, and counter to remove, so I am trying to hold off. The previous owner installed a series of 110 light sockets with 100 watt bulbs to help keep pipes from freezing, which has worked well so far. We have camped a few time in cold weather and have used portable electric heaters , which work well except for one problem-- all the heat is at the ceiling while the floor area is cold. Does anyone use fans to stir the air ?
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:00 PM   #58
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Does the Delonghi 1500 watt oil filled heater get hot to the point of being a fire danger? I got one for Christmas and was thinking of putting it out in my Airstream to help keep the interior dry, since we get such damp winters here on the West coast.
We have some of these units for extra heat upstairs in the winter. They a bit too hot to touch but would not be a fire hazard. I have used one of them on occasion when I have been working out in my AS with good results. My AS is still largely empty though with nothing in particular to catch on fire. I would not hesitate to run the unit when I am not out there.

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Old 01-17-2008, 09:10 PM   #59
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Does it have a UL rating?
It's Intertek listed and built to CSA standards.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:10 PM   #60
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We have some of these units for extra heat upstairs in the winter. They a bit too hot to touch but would not be a fire hazard. I have used one of them on occasion when I have been working out in my AS with good results. My AS is still largely empty though with nothing in particular to catch on fire. I would not hesitate to run the unit when I am not out there.

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Thanks Malcom for the first hand experience.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:11 AM   #61
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I think the Vornado is about the best electric heater for an RV. They heat a space evenly, are whisper-quiet, cool to the touch (so no burn risk). And they are on sale with free shipping - just got an email from them today. I've had mine for about a year and use it in the house when we're not camping.

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Old 01-18-2008, 02:26 PM   #62
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We have a 24 Argosy and on our way to the canopener we stopped in Miss. It was 26*F outside and we ran a five disc Pelonis and a little 360* Honeywell ceramic, no furnace at all. The thermastat and thermometer read 80 degrees insideand the thermometer lower down read 76 at 7 am the next morning, we were toasty warm. The next night, our first night at Topsail it was 27 degrees and we had the same results. The heaters were not on full blast either night. The Pelonis without a doubt did most of the work, when the temp reached above 30 we turned the honeywell on low and let the Pelonis do the work. The Pelonis is probably the best small ceramic heater you can get. We got ours for about 50 bucks on sale after the winter season, I think normal price was about 90 dollars. We also opened cabinet doors and left a drip going in the faucets and experienced no pipe freezing.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:28 PM   #63
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The Pelonis without a doubt did most of the work, when the temp reached above 30 we turned the honeywell on low and let the Pelonis do the work. The Pelonis is probably the best small ceramic heater you can get.
We second that emotion!!

Used a 1500w Pelonis in the 63 Safari, a dyn-o-mite little heater, fairly quiet too.
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:14 PM   #64
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We have a 24 Argosy and on our way to the canopener we stopped in Miss. It was 26*F outside and we ran a five disc Pelonis and a little 360* Honeywell ceramic, no furnace at all. The thermastat and thermometer read 80 degrees insideand the thermometer lower down read 76 at 7 am the next morning, we were toasty warm. The next night, our first night at Topsail it was 27 degrees and we had the same results. The heaters were not on full blast either night. The Pelonis without a doubt did most of the work, when the temp reached above 30 we turned the honeywell on low and let the Pelonis do the work. The Pelonis is probably the best small ceramic heater you can get. We got ours for about 50 bucks on sale after the winter season, I think normal price was about 90 dollars. We also opened cabinet doors and left a drip going in the faucets and experienced no pipe freezing.
I should mention we also had 5 persons worth of body heat as well.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:31 AM   #65
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Delonghi oil heaters

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IMHO, the Delonghi oil filled heaters are the way to go. They don't eat up too many amps, are fire safe, and use no oxygen. I've got two of them, but have only ever used one in our excella. If it realy gets cold, I'll fire up the catalytic as well as one of these babies. This keeps me comfortably warm even when outdoor temps are down into the 20's-30's. And, I just noticed that Home Depot,( at least my local Depot) has the 1500 watt models on sale for less than $20. What a good bargain! Hope this helps Mark
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:50 PM   #66
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Hi, we just got home from camping at San Clemente State Beach. We used our new oil filled heater for the first time this weekend. It worked great. We have used oil filled heaters in our home to heat one room and we like the way they work. I wanted something a bit smaller for my trailer and bought the Delonghe TRN1015T model. Instead of being squareish, it is more of an egg shape. It has two switches that give you three wattage levels of control. First switch, is low and 600 watts. Second switch, is medium and 900 watts. And with both switches turned on together it is 1500 watts. We found that by turning on only the second switch, 900 watts and turning the thermostat to number 4 kept our trailer at about 70 degrees all night long. The thermostat knob goes from zero to 6. [0-1-2-3-4-5-6] Plusses: small, [23" X 17.5" X 7"] no fan noise, [no fan] no orange coil glow, [no coils] No fuel, [propane] And no oxygen depletion. I set my furnace thermostat to 68 degrees just in case the oil filled heater couldn't keep up and my furnace never came on for the four days we camped. I would recommend this heater.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:32 AM   #67
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move the air and "blue flame heaters"

Thanks ROBERT CROSS for the link to the fan site. Believe it or not I had the same idea and almost pulled over the other day to dig through some trash in front of a neighbors house to see if the computer tower he was throwing away still had the cooling fan.

Speaking of heaters, has anyone used a "blue flame" propane heater in their trailer? Would it work where the catalytic used to be mounted just inside the door? We have a fold down shelf extender ther and I am worried the rising heat would cause problems.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:37 AM   #68
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Hi, we just got home from camping at San Clemente State Beach. We used our new oil filled heater for the first time this weekend. It worked great. We have used oil filled heaters in our home to heat one room and we like the way they work. I wanted something a bit smaller for my trailer and bought the Delonghe TRN1015T model. Instead of being squareish, it is more of an egg shape. It has two switches that give you three wattage levels of control. First switch, is low and 600 watts. Second switch, is medium and 900 watts. And with both switches turned on together it is 1500 watts. We found that by turning on only the second switch, 900 watts and turning the thermostat to number 4 kept our trailer at about 70 degrees all night long. The thermostat knob goes from zero to 6. [0-1-2-3-4-5-6] Plusses: small, [23" X 17.5" X 7"] no fan noise, [no fan] no orange coil glow, [no coils] No fuel, [propane] And no oxygen depletion. I set my furnace thermostat to 68 degrees just in case the oil filled heater couldn't keep up and my furnace never came on for the four days we camped. I would recommend this heater.
What was the temp. outside? We use the oil filled radiator heators in our place to good effect but I'll tell you the Pelonis works better.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:20 AM   #69
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Thanks . . . I did some Google searches using "oxygen meter", "oxygen monitor" and "oxygen sensor" but didn't find what I was looking for . . .

I already have a carbon monoxide and lp alarm, but my catalytic heater sucks the oxygen out of the air and I want an alarm for that; I know I can open a vent, but it would be nice to have an alarm to know how much to open. If the oxygen level goes down below safe levels during the night as it gets colder (and the heater runs more often) it would be sane to have an alarm that can wake me before it's too late.
I have never heard of "low oxygen" as a problem. As I understand it as O2 combusts the byproduct is CO carbon monoxide. So I would think a more commonly available CO detector would do the job. I am also guessing a O2 level monitor would be more appropriate to a sealed envoronment (such as an Airstream in space ala Spaceballs) where the byproduct of respiration is CO2, carbon dioxide. I wonder if the "avoid asphyxiation" line mentioned in the orevious post is just a marketing ploy.
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:13 AM   #70
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Catalytic heaters are totally different from other heaters. Propane is oxidized without a flame. When you first fire one up, there is a flame but only to heat the catalyst to the proper heat for the chemical reaction to occur. When the proper heat has been reached the flame is no longer required. The by product is water vapor and CO2. Tests have shown a small but safe level of CO is produced, but that is not the major concern. Reduction in the amount of oxygen is the issue. Newer units are equipped with an O2 sensor which will shut them down when the O2 level drops.

I would still recommend that you use a CO detector and also have a vent or window cracked to supply O2. We do not camp in very cold areas, so we do not run the heater when we go to bed. If it is cold we throw on an additional blanket.

Here is a good link that explains the operation of these units: http://www.catalyticheaters.us/
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