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03-13-2011, 10:36 PM
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,309
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Propane
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Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, the number one cause of fires at gas stations is from women, not RV's.
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All the girls are HOT.
Propane
In the interest of safety first, the rule is to shut off all ignition sources while fueling, taking on Propane, and or parked in an enclosed work area where flammable material is being used or stored.
I usually am fueling at the diesel pump and the risk is low, however, I always shut off the furnace or fridge, before entering the pump island area. Better safe than sorry. You owe it to the other people in the vicinity to do your part to ensure the safety of all. Its just a matter of flipping the switch!
Just like the rule - you don't make sparks around a charging battery. You can maybe get away with it many times but, if you do it often enough, the odds will catch up to you.
Natural disasters are hard to take, but man made preventable accidents are a CRIME.
Dave
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03-14-2011, 10:11 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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It is more than a matter of flipping a switch. It means stopping before the island, possibly on the side of the road, or within the gas station area blocking traffic. This increases the risk of an accident. Then you get out of the tow vehicle (some risk, however small, of someone running you down) and go back to the trailer and walk around the back to the door, put down the stairs, unlocking the door, going inside and flipping the switch (actually pushing a button in ours), going back outside (possibly tripping on the steps and doing a face plant), closing the door, getting back in the tow vehicle, pulling up to the island, filling up, leaving to somewhere to park again and repeat the process in reverse before you go with similar risks. I wonder which collection of risks is more likely—both approaches have risk.
Whatever the risk of leaving applicances on during fueling, now there are rubber seals on the fueling nozzles to prevent the escape of gas fumes.
Gene
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03-14-2011, 10:25 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Gene makes a valid point. As a practical matter it is extremely awkward to enter the trailer and turn the fridge off and on before and after fueling. In many fueling situations there's no good place to do it, out of traffic, away from the pumps, and where there is sufficient room to maneuver.
There was a brief span of years where Airstream used a 9-pin umbilical connector that had some sort of provision for shutting off the fridge from the tow vehicle. It was dropped when the big 3 started offering 7-way RV connectors as options and in some cases standard equipment on trucks and vans.
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03-14-2011, 10:27 AM
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#24
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,309
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Pilot Lights
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ALWAYS extinguish propane pilot lights in recreational
vehicles,campers, motorhomes and other vehicles before refueling the vehicle.
The above is a quote from page 3 of the following!
http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...uel_safety.pdf
Dave
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
It is more than a matter of flipping a switch. It means stopping before the island, possibly on the side of the road, or within the gas station area blocking traffic. This increases the risk of an accident. Then you get out of the tow vehicle (some risk, however small, of someone running you down) and go back to the trailer and walk around the back to the door, put down the stairs, unlocking the door, going inside and flipping the switch (actually pushing a button in ours), going back outside (possibly tripping on the steps and doing a face plant), closing the door, getting back in the tow vehicle, pulling up to the island, filling up, leaving to somewhere to park again and repeat the process in reverse before you go with similar risks. I wonder which collection of risks is more likely—both approaches have risk.
Whatever the risk of leaving applicances on during fueling, now there are rubber seals on the fueling nozzles to prevent the escape of gas fumes.
Gene
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03-14-2011, 10:53 PM
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#25
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by masseyfarm
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ALWAYS extinguish propane pilot lights in recreational
vehicles,campers, motorhomes and other
vehicles before refueling the vehicle.
The above is a quote from page 3 of the following!
Dave
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Hi, I just don't understand Canada! In Canada, you can tow an Airstream with a Mini-Cooper, but in USA you have to have a Kenworth. In Canada, You only have to be ten feet away from the gas pumps to smoke cigarettes, but in USA you have to be twenty five feet away.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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03-14-2011, 11:19 PM
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#26
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,309
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• DON’T smoke within 7.5
metres (25 feet) of a gasoline
pump (3 metres or 10 feet in Ontario).
Must be the metric conversion that makes it safe.
Trudeau told us it would make everything we do easier back in 1969 when we changed to metric.
Myself - - I'm still trying to make it work.
Dave
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
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03-15-2011, 08:53 AM
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#27
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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I think you have to have your propane tanks recertified in Canada sooner than the US—10 years vs. 12 years if I recall correctly. Maybe that's why you can smoke closer to the gas pump (in your Mini).
Gene
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03-15-2011, 09:45 AM
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#28
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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It's the metric cigarettes. They're safer.
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03-16-2011, 01:32 PM
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#29
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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Found this link about gasses and dumping black tanks. Enjoy!
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03-16-2011, 01:37 PM
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#30
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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If you want to watch the link on post #29 just select "watch it on U tube", and it will play. I don't know why it came up twice in the post. I must have done something wrong.
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