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Old 05-14-2002, 12:45 AM   #1
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Question Experiences with Carrier Air V installation?

On and off for the past couple of days I've been trying to properly install a Carrier Air V rooftop A/C on my '73 Sovereign. I've unassembled and reassembled the ceiling unit so many times now I can do it blindfolded. The two main problems I've encountered have been the compression of the exterior and interior skins (especially an aggravated deflection of the exterior skin at the rear of the 14"x14" roof opening) and not being able to attach the grille assembly to the ceiling unit due to a combination of the ceiling curvature and interior skin compression by the tightened down ceiling unit.

I've used cedar spacers between the skins and also between the ceiling and ceiling unit with some positive results, however I am still getting a bad deflection of the exterior skin to the rear of the roof opening.

Tomorrow I am getting a 16 or 14 gauge re-enforced stainless base plate fabricated to bridge the supports fore and aft of the roof opening for the rooftop unit to sit on. After I install this stainless base plate I will continue to work out the most appropriate spacer arrangement for both between the skins and between the ceiling and ceiling unit.

Two other issues I intend to address: 1) I will try to seal the gap between the straight ceiling unit grille assembly and the curved ceiling with gray open cell foam closure material, and 2) I am concerned about the negative pressure created between the inner and outer skins by the unducted routing of the return air through the roof opening where there is exposure to the insulated space between the inner and outer skins - I plan on using 2" open cell foam backer rod between the skins around the roof opening to seal this gap. If unchecked, both of these conditions will contribute to the intake of unfiltered air across the evaporator.

After the A/C unit installation is completed, then I have to lower the support bracket for the bedroom privacy curtain since the new (substantially lowered by spacers) ceiling unit has now displaced this bracket.

Despite all these minor problems along with no provision for a drip pan to drain to an internal condensate drain I am very pleased with the Carrier unit.

Does anyone else have any experience with the installation of the Carrier Air V they would care to share?
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Old 05-15-2003, 02:23 AM   #2
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Just installed a new 15K BTU Carrier on my '87 Excella and went through some of the same problems as you seem to be having. I have some of the roof deflection you describe but it didn't seem too bad so I left it as is. I had a length of the weatherstrip used on the vent covers left over and it worked perfectly to seal the gaps at front and rear of lower unit.
The opening in my roof was framed all around by aluminum I-beam but the inner skin (vinyl metal) had been sloppily cut past the edges of the beams so I used duct tape to seal it. I used shims made to square door frames in houses to shim out and level the lower unit. They are wedge shaped and about a quarter inch thick at the large end. They come in packages of 15 or 20 and cost a buck or so.
Sure is a world of difference between the 15 year old Coleman and this new Carrier. Outside unit is very quiet and inside is tolerable. It was 97 degrees outside today and my unit hit 80 deg. inside temp. Trailer is in direct sunlight all day with no shade and awnings furled.
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Carrier AirV A/C

QUESTION: Is there a way to connect the water condensation hose to the new Carrier Install? We did a A/C swap on our '80 sov. The old Armstrong gave up on us. It was a bear of a job, The only downside is the water running off the roof. I did not see any way to connect the existing drain tube. The 15k btu unit is very quiet.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:35 PM   #4
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Hey...could you pls talk me about the power connection of airv to the battery? I need to connect it but I dont know how to handle the battery wires to the Airv or a Conversor...pls help me!
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QUESTION: Is there a way to connect the water condensation hose to the new Carrier Install? We did a A/C swap on our '80 sov. The old Armstrong gave up on us. It was a bear of a job, The only downside is the water running off the roof. I did not see any way to connect the existing drain tube. The 15k btu unit is very quiet.
From what I`ve read you must get a unit with a pan,and tie the pan into the drain.Dave
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Old 04-28-2009, 03:47 PM   #6
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Hey...could you pls talk me about the power connection of airv to the battery? I need to connect it but I dont know how to handle the battery wires to the Airv or a Conversor...pls help me!
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Should be powered by 110 v,from the breaker panel.Dave
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QUESTION: Is there a way to connect the water condensation hose to the new Carrier Install? We did a A/C swap on our '80 sov. The old Armstrong gave up on us. It was a bear of a job, The only downside is the water running off the roof. I did not see any way to connect the existing drain tube. The 15k btu unit is very quiet.
I just installed one on my 75 TW this weekend. It had a connector for the water drip line. It was dead center on the bottom of the top unit. The drain piece had to be attached after the plastic piece on the unit was cut open. The unit I installed was the low profile 13.5 BTU.
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Rich, after you installed the wooden framing, did you have any of the problems with deflection that the OP describes?

Oh, and I forgot to ask while at the rally if you simply reused the original thermostat, just connecting up the electrical control lines to it?


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The connection to the outer skin was not a problem. The frame that Roger built was attached to the inner skin as well as the outer skin. It matched the shape of the shell, but the gasket was more then enough to make up the deflection. The attachment of the plastic piece was another story. We had to remove 1/2 inch of the plastic from the sides and also taper the front and back. The thermostat was left on the wall, but not attached. The controls are all on the unit.
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Ahhh!

I can tell that I should have convinced my co-attendees to stay longer! Durn. Next time.


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I installed the Carrier 15,000 BTU AC on my 1976 31' Sovereign a few years ago and it has worked without a problem since. After reinforcing the opening the top side unit fit just fine but the curved ceiling on the inside was a problem. There are others that trimmed the plastic cover to fit but I built a spacer to account for the curve in the roof. I also installed a brass fitting just under the blower and connected the existing drain line and no water on the roof. Look at post 16 and 25 in the thread below to see some pictures.

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