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Old 09-14-2014, 10:20 PM   #295
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When I grew up in mid-century small town Minnesota, there wasn't a single air conditioned building in town, most were saving for a food freezer, and some like my old grandparents still did not have electricity on the farm.

Fussing over one or two, direct or ducted, air conditioning while camping makes me wonder where this sort of thing will end, in that context. And now we have the ability to have one air conditioner cooling in the front of the trailer and the other one heating in the back for even more perfection.

While camping.
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:55 PM   #296
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^ lol, that's a good reality check
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:42 AM   #297
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Yup, when I was being raised in Sioux Falls in the 40's, we put ice in a glass, set it in the window sill, and hoped the breeze would cool the room. LOL

Today, I think if we were to limit the A/C setting to 78 as the coolest, I would be happy. And in retrospect, with the improved insulation in the thicker roof, maybe one unit would suffice. My thoughts were the second unit would be best for resale value, and allow me to visit in Texas during the summer where experience suggests one unit is working very hard to get the temp down to even 85 degrees at times.

I am really not a "camper" per se, but someone who likes to sleep in her own bed, use her own toilet, be able to stop anywhere to sleep when on the road, and prepare her own food. In a new Airstream there is no way anyone can consider this as even coming close to "camping" or "roughing it" but simply taking the luxury of my home on the road.

Maybe I need a vintage 19 footer with no A/C to be a real Airstreamer....

The ducted air is really sweet IMO. (Old age, very soft, likes no discomfort)


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Old 09-17-2014, 07:08 PM   #298
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I've been at the factory getting some warranty work completed.

I looked closely at the new ducted air parts and install. The plans I saw and talking with the duct builder if you have two A/C units while you still have 'zone' controls on the controller, air/heat flows the entire length of the ducts. There is no bulkhead in the ducts to really give you zone control temperature. That's my read of what I saw and heard. So the posts earlier in the thread where you have a different temp, front and back, on a dual A/C unit probably are not possible with the new system.
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That's consistent with what the factory rep at the Hershey show told me, when I asked whether a single AC would service the entire trailer or not if it had ducted air. He indicated it would. Of course, two units could still be useful if the heat load were too large for a single AC to handle.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:42 PM   #300
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I am also at the factory getting work done.
The only obvious difference that I can see is the bulge in the roof that starts immediately after the end caps. I wonder if they will ever reshape/redesign the end caps to make that bulge go away.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:12 PM   #301
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I agree with you Hony, I think Airstream took the least expensive route because the segments should have been redesigned to avoid that hump.


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So, we're looking at the first AS model year with ducted air. This change seems a very good "about time" idea, and it will be interesting to see in ensuing years whether they more gracefully incorporate ducted air into the roof / end cap design.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:45 AM   #303
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Even Leave part of the "hump" of the end cap silver, it would almost vanish, I may have to remove a few inches of white paint....
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Regarding the "hump", what would we have to talk about if they made it fully integrated. Seriously, however, I have no issue with this as I suspect being able to do the main "monocoque" the same on most models is a production technique which utilizes current jigs, whereas to change this may require immense production costs.

The lack of duct baffles to fully separate the zones is interesting, but allows good cooling/heating in the bedroom while running the front unit. Almost inaudible in my experience when set this way.

I suspect, if I had know of the more efficient set up, improved insulation in the roof, etc., I may have opted for a single unit and the 30 Amp service. While not an impossible task, moving the 50 Amp electrical cord is a pain in the tail, IMO. And, i am going to start a new thread in a technical section regarding configuring a 30 Amp cord with the 50 Amp plug for the trailer so as to allow me to use a lighter cord when running on my generator.
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:00 AM   #305
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I just don't see the "hump" you are talking about. They did a good job making the modification without changing the outside look.

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I agree, I do not see any real "hump" and that is why I think they did an excellent job in the design. As one can see from the photo of my unit in my garage, the "hump" is not really visible. Photo taken from about 7 feet off ground.
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FYI, on every major RV with decreed roof air units, each A/C flows into a duct system that runs from front to back with no baffles to differentiate the zones.


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That was 'ducted' NOT decreed. Auto correct strikes again!!!!!


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