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Old 10-24-2002, 09:35 AM   #15
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Has anyone installed one of the new style gas ceramic heaters? (the kind with rectangular panels that glow red with heat)

I have used a portable one with good success. (Mr. Heater Buddy attached to a large tank)
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Old 10-24-2002, 02:53 PM   #16
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Strange, I guess I need to set up my wireless temperature gauges and run some tests inside my 31' trailer. I realize that my catalytic is warmer in front of it than behind it but you can't convince me that air warmed between the heater and the object the heat radiates against does not migrate upward and down the hallway of my trailer. I can sit in the front area with the Wave 6 unit wide open and be hot, walk to the center of the trailer and be warm then walk into the bathroom I have closed off and feel chilled. I guess this is why I saw an Airstream on ebay last year that advertised catalytic heaters in front lounge area and in back bedroom. It's test time!
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Old 10-24-2002, 03:22 PM   #17
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Hi Craig,

I suppose it heats up objects other than human bodies as well. So yes, there will be some warm air sensations, but it is a reasult of other areas becoming warm and radiating, not a function of the heater itself warming up the air. Like infrared heat. I still have the original manual for the thing, and that's what it claims. It seems to be right on the money, because of how it feels. Plus, the housing of the heater barely gets hot. You're right - it is kind of strange.
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Old 10-24-2002, 03:23 PM   #18
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Craig, the unit is a Thermax 360. There doesn't appear to be any other ID. The themocouple is similarly without numbers.I am certainly willing to invest in shipping cost if that is still agreeable.If its still OK let me know and I will get you an address etc.
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Old 10-24-2002, 03:52 PM   #19
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My heater is mounted so that it points toward the Flexsteel couch which is on the curbside of the coach. I can't sit on the edge of the couch toward this heater for any length of time while it is on high (6,000 BTU). If I move to the roadside of the coach and sit at the table, it is comfortable but I have to turn the unit down to Low because the front area starts to get warmer than I like. We are talking about nighttime around 39-40 degrees outside temp. Last week, outside temp. was 39 at 4:15 a.m. when I woke up to get ready for deer hunting. My wireless temp/barometer unit showed 59 degrees inside next to my center twin bed and the Wave 6 was turned on Low with no help from the furnace. By 5:00 a.m. outside temp. was 40.6 degrees and the heater was turned off before departing for the woods.

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I'll check the model # when I get home around 5:20 p.m. Central and post my findings.
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Old 10-24-2002, 06:08 PM   #20
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The Therm'x is a model 634 with Off, Lo, Med and High settings and a range of 3,000 to 6,000 BTU. Exterior dimensions are 12 3/4" W X 18 1/2" H X 4 1/2" deep. It has Piezo ignition. If I had a picture or part # of the thermocouple, I could go further into the unit to see if it they are the same.
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Old 10-25-2002, 06:31 AM   #21
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OK Craig, we will tear the unit apart this weekend, take some pictures, and post them for you. Thanks again for all your trouble.
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Brouck,
Thank you. It will give me a better idea since I do not have a schematic drawing of the unit innerds.
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Old 11-04-2002, 06:45 AM   #23
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Craig, I have attempted to attach a pic of the thermocouple. Unit demensions are 18 3/4 x 12 3/4 x 4 inches. Let me know if you need more info.
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Brouck,
I'll tear into it this evening and compare the parts.
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I have a 27-foot International Overlander and took the original forced-air heater out years ago, now using the space for kitchen utensils.

For heat, I installed two 6,000 BTU catalytic heaters, both in the front. I paid about $150 apiece to JC Whitney. I use a small, portable 12-volt fan sitting on top of the stove area to move heat from the front to the back, when needed. I have used this setup in below freezing weather. It keeps the interior of the coach warm. Of course, the rear is not as warm as the front, but I look at it as a north and a south. Choose the area you are most comfortable in. With this setup, there is no issue of interior water lines freezing. But, the holding tank in the rear needs protection, or emptied.

The cataytic heaters put 100% of the heat inside the trailer. One must be careful to have some ventilation (with my old unit, that's no problem). I keep a propane and fire alarm on at all times. I also have a CO detector on.

I might note that on the wall space above one of my units, (the other unit does not have any wall above it...that's the one with the fan on the stovetop) I found it necessary to install a two-foot by two-foot fire-resistant pad because the wood got too hot to touch. I used it without the pad for a while, but I don't think it's a good idea to let the wood get that hot. I don't know about the theory of the catalytic heater only heating objects that are in front of the radiated area, but I do know that the area immediately above the heater (like the aforementioned wall space) gets really hot from what I assume is the rising hot air. I can't imagine what else it could be.

I also have a 1500-watt electric heater for when 120-volt AC is available. That goes in the back, usually in the bathroom pointed to the twin bed sleeping area.
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Old 11-05-2002, 08:36 AM   #26
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Airstreamer67,
I have a Wave 6 (6000 BTU) in the front area of my 31' Excella 500. This keeps the front area nice and warm. I also have a Coleman propane catalytic protable connected to an 11 lb. tank that I can put near the rear bathroom area to warm it or help with the middle bed area. The www.rvsolarelectric.com site sells Wave 3 and Wave 6 heaters in addition to all parts for splicing into the gas system to mount a portable Wave with legs on it. A swivel LP connection plugs into an outlet mounted in the floor and a rubber hose goes to the Wave unit. This seems like a viable option if you can't mount a catalytic on the wall. They also mention that you can pick up a wire swivel mount that lets you "peel" the unit away from the wall and point it down the hallway. I've been wondering where this type of mount could be found?
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Craig, I've been really pleased with the efficiency of the catalytic heaters. I would venture to say they are as efficient as one can get. A tank of propane lasts a long time with these units, and they don't draw any electric current unless a detached ventilation fan is used, as I noted above.

Of course, as with any other heating system, they have to be used with care.


Thanks for the info on the portable units. These also would be useful at home when the power goes out.
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Old 11-06-2002, 06:49 PM   #28
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Brouck,
I am comparing the picture of your thermocouple and mine. I hate to say it but they are different. I wish I could have been of some help. If no one else on the board has a spare around, what about checking Colaws Salvage in the vendor section. It is a long shot and I think you probably would be better off buying a new Wave 6. Did you see the Wave 8 for sale on the forum?
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