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09-10-2015, 09:13 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido
, California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 196
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Take a look at Dometic all in ones.
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09-10-2015, 02:27 PM
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#22
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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8000 btu
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Originally Posted by Cardinal283
How many BTU was your old Honeywell unit? The one you said wasn't big enough.
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It is the biggest unit I could fit in the closet. Nowhere near adequate, and the vent hose throws off lots of heat, even after adding insulation.
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09-10-2015, 09:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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We have a split system in a church office. It has been great! The lines are flexible enough that you should not have much of an issue.
When installing my AC DEAUX(#2), rather than pull down inner skins, I did a ceiling penetration, ran power and condensate lines along inside of ceiling, concealing with an expanding "loom", not the plastic looking one, a nice black weave. My wife was going to make a fabric cover for it, but it turned out so nice, we left it plain.
I "penetrated" the shell at the floor, coming out in the water access box! The condensate tube lines up with the opening for the fresh water hose entry!!!! Slick.
For your front mount, I would come from underneath, like the turn signal umbilical enters the newer models. This would keep it water safe and allow you to run your connections up inside the trailer. You can easily camouflage them with thin wood or aluminum....
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Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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09-18-2015, 05:59 AM
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#24
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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With help from a friend, I got the refrigerant lines vacuumed and leak free, then released the refrigerant to charge the system. Ran it for 30 minute test on both heat and cool modes. The outside unit is very quiet and the inside unit is barely audible. Max current draw is 6 amps due to "inverter" style compressor. Real world testing still required to see how it handles vibration while towing and whether it can handle the Texas heat but so far I am very impressed with this $700 unit.
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09-18-2015, 09:41 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
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2022 Atlas
Homosassa
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 729
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I have a mini split in my garage. It does noticeably well in the heat considering the garage is uninsulated.
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09-18-2015, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Just returned from vacation in Aruba. Virtually every building on the island has units like this. Probably saw over 1000 split systems compared with about 6 conventional window units and perhaps 10 full-fledged forced air central A/C units.
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09-20-2015, 10:42 PM
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#27
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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I applaud your efforts. Along with the Texas heat and your desire to park your vintage Airstream in the garage this is your only option. Great job. Motivation and persistance is the key to your success.
My window AC unit in our 66 Tradewind works fine for us and was really pretty simple.
Dan
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10-12-2015, 07:19 AM
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#28
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Initial use report:
Just returned from a 10 day trip to ABQ Balloon Festival and Grand Canyon NP. Ran A/C lightly during the day and heat pump all night. Almost whisper quiet. Performed beautifully. Coldest night was 38F and trailer was a toasty 72 inside.
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11-12-2015, 11:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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So far no issues with vibration. I had a cover made for the outdoor unit to protect it while towing. Kill-A-Watt shows max draw of 8 amps. Pretty sure that means I can run the entire trailer on a single Honda 2000 gennie since the fridge and water heater can both run on LP. 12,000 BTU seems like plenty for this trailer. I am completing my birch paneling of the interior which should improve insulation somewhat. Highly recommend this unit if you are willing to do the work to install it.
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03-26-2017, 09:26 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
Twin Falls
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 247
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I recently came across doing this on a Boler and looked more and found this thread. been thinking about doing this instead of the rooftop AC for the same reasons you had. Great work. How has it held up so far? Was there a reason you didn't install it on the back bumper (if you have one)? Was it the length of tubing that came with the unit? Oh, and how did you wire it up electrically? Thanks
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03-27-2017, 10:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Answers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trons4u
I recently came across doing this on a Boler and looked more and found this thread. been thinking about doing this instead of the rooftop AC for the same reasons you had. Great work. How has it held up so far? Was there a reason you didn't install it on the back bumper (if you have one)? Was it the length of tubing that came with the unit? Oh, and how did you wire it up electrically? Thanks
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1. Held up great for two years. Recently sold the trailer and new owners love it. Just got another unit for my next trailer.
2. Weight in the rear is generally a no-no, rear bumper too small anyway, and wanted to mount indoor unit in the front.
3. Line set length can be specified when you order. I got the minimum (10 feet) and cut it to length.
4. Although they recommend hard wiring, I spliced a plug on the end since:
a) I had a convenient outlet close by, and
b) It gives me the option to plug it into a separate power source.
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03-27-2017, 11:13 AM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,987
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I've seen BambiTex's unit in operation and it's very quiet and cool (pun) indeed!
The only question I failed to ask is: Since it is mounted fore/aft, it appears to obstruct a tight left-hand turn (reduced clearance between AC unit and TV rear bumper)... especially vulnerable when backing-up. Why did you choose that orientation over a lateral one? Would your single LP tank not fit in front of a lateral install?
George
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03-28-2017, 10:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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BambiTex
Very nice work on your first install. So, what changes will you make for your second installation?
Thanks, Dan
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03-30-2017, 03:36 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
Twin Falls
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 247
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Great too hear, thanks for the response. I like the idea of a split system. May look into extending the tongue about 12" so I can keep the propane tanks. It's waiting to be sandblasted right now. Hmm, decisions.
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03-31-2017, 11:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Answers
1. Yes, orientation does affect tight left hand turns. I have a dent in my bumper cover to prove it. Switching to a longer ball mount solved the problem.
2. There was not sufficient room for the compressor, LP tank and tongue jack if oriented transversely.
3. Tongue on my Overlander is slightly longer, and I added an electric tongue jack which increases clearance as well. New install will be traverse. I plan to move the LP bottles back against the trailer body and mount the compressor in front. It is a shame, since the shiny LP bottles will be blocked but airflow would be compromised otherwise.
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04-05-2017, 07:27 AM
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#36
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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New install in progress
Built a platform and moved the LP bottles as close as I dared to the trailer body, bolted aluminum angles to tongue. Compressor will bolt to angles through rubber vibration mounts. Pretty tight fit and not ideal in terms of airflow but the tradeoff is a nice compact footprint.
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04-05-2017, 08:31 AM
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#37
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,987
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You're gonna hate me for saying this.... but I mean it in the best way.... I'd have mounted the AC unit close to the trailer and considered going to one LP bottle. The warm air from the AC would facilitate vaporization of LP, and the round bottle would be very little obstruction to the air flow, and the AC unit would be better protected from road debris. The turning radius would also be improved, and the pretty aluminum bottle would be better admired.
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04-05-2017, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,525
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Smokeless Joe visited with us in Georgia on his around the US tour. He had an incredible and enviable rig. The ductless air unit was beautifully done and worked great.
He also had diesel powered hot water and stove as I recall. Sold the whole rig to a couple off the forum.
I use the method I got from a guy here, mounting a window unit in the front of my trailer with a small wooden folding leg table support on the window frame and the propane bottles. Smaller ac unit works quite well up into the low 90s but can't beat back the heat and the Sun when its any hotter.
Thank fully we mostly used it at night where it did the job.
Issue with is is the placement,as the cold air made the gaucho not the best place to sit. Have to say I paid $35 used for it several years ago and it has been pretty good to this point. But I am open to a better idea.
Just found a photo of Joe and his rig:
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04-06-2017, 06:54 AM
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#39
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Not workable
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxite
You're gonna hate me for saying this.... but I mean it in the best way.... I'd have mounted the AC unit close to the trailer and considered going to one LP bottle. The warm air from the AC would facilitate vaporization of LP, and the round bottle would be very little obstruction to the air flow, and the AC unit would be better protected from road debris. The turning radius would also be improved, and the pretty aluminum bottle would be better admired.
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That would have put the intake side of the unit right up against the trailer body. They say you need at least 12 inches clearance, which I have (though the LP bottles are a partial obstruction). Believe me, I considered all possible placement options before settling on this one.
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04-06-2017, 06:59 AM
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#40
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Many options
I used a 6000 BTU window unit in my first AS (17 ft Bambi II) mounted in the rear window on a cantilevered "table" platform and it worked great. For a 26 footer I need more BTU's and window units that size are too big and heavy to install/remove while travelling. Putting one in the front window is not ideal from an airflow and aesthetics standpoint IMO but to each his (or her) own....
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