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Old 06-08-2013, 07:57 AM   #1
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I am replacing old Armstrong on a 31'
I just want a cool only Penguin 13,500
What is the difference between ducted and non ducted units.
Which controls?

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Old 06-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #2
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I am replacing old Armstrong on a 31'
I just want a cool only Penguin 13,500
What is the difference between ducted and non ducted units.
Which controls?

Thanks.
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A ducted AC is normally found in Motor Homes or big Trailers that have room in the ceiling to run ducts for air distribution. Your Airstream will need a non-ducted AC.
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I am replacing old Armstrong on a 31'
I just want a cool only Penguin 13,500
What is the difference between ducted and non ducted units.
Which controls?

Thanks.
Jim.
You need a non-ducted unit, since Airstreams do not have the required ceiling depth and headroom for a duct system that distributes the cool air thru out the trailer. I would also get a 15K unit for a 31', as you will appreciates the extra cooling capacity when it is either very hot or humid.

Next to consider are the cooling controls. You have 3 choices:

• direct mechanical controls: these are 2 rotary knobs located on the bottom of the air distribution box at the bottom of the A/C unit, one for fan speed and the other for degree of cooling. There are no precise temperature settings on this type

• single zone digital thermostat: a small box mounted on the wall that gives you a digital read out of the actual temperature that has been set and the actual room temperature. You can also control your furnace with this device. NOTE: this requires 12VDC wiring to be present at the A/C unit in the ceiling and 3 minimum 18AWG wires to run from the A/C to the thermostat location. You also must have the two blue wires from your furnace present at the A/C location if you wish to run the furnace.

• Comfort Control Center II (CCC II): a more complex digital thermostat system that has multi-zone capabilities. All of the extra wiring stated above must be present for it to work, plus there must be an RJ-45 phone-type data cable run between the A/C unit and the CCC II.

For ease of installation, most folks use option 1. If you are doing a re-model or have the existing wire in place, options 2 or 3 make for a better installation.
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Thanks for clarification

Option 1 will work

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#31 footer with a 13,500 will be a real challenge....especially in a southern climate....impossible in a Texas climate.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:59 AM   #6
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What model # is the 15,000 cool only Penguin with controls on ADB

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According to the guy who sold us our 15000 BTU unit last year at an AS dealership, the 15000 units must be thermostat controlled: there's no "on the unit" controls for these for the Penguin II. Ours is a cool only unit also and we are happy with it.

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Penguin II high capacity ( 15K) Cool Only: # 641916 (Single Zone Thermostat required) MSRP: $959

Single Zone Thermostat: #3313189.000 MSRP.............$98

ADB for Wall Thermostat unit: #3310742.014 MSRP................$129

The dealer is correct! After checking with my reference material, you can only use the mechanical controls with the 13.5K model #640315 MSRP.....$801

ADB with mechanical control: #3310741.016 MSRP........$129

The difference being that the 15K unit already has the electronic control board installed in the unit, where the 13.5K does not, allowing it to use the mechanical controls.

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I am in SC.
Where can I buy A new Penguin unit?

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