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07-10-2005, 11:41 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1970 29' Ambassador
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1957 26' Overlander
Ashland
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Im doing the same
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Originally Posted by john hd
steph
i would highly reccomend a convection/microwave oven.
i have a magic chef unit that came with my trailer from the factory.
very nice, you can even run both features at once. it is a relatively small unit.
you can bake with it just fine. potatoes, pizzas and muffins etc.
saves alot of space.
john
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Hi John, On this microwave issue. I am replacing the furnace with a Micro/convection oven. Does it need to wire directly to 120, or does it have to go through the invertor? I read that it can hurt the invertor due to the heat. Can you advise on how to wire the micro ? thanks!!
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07-10-2005, 10:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2002 19' Bambi
1989 29' Excella
1980 28' International
Avon
, Colorado
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Location: 1989 29' Excella
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albert
I am replacing the furnace with a Micro/convection oven.
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Did you really mean "furnace"?
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07-11-2005, 06:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
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Always a dilema when you want to make changes eh Stephanie.
Funny a furnace should be mentioned at the end - our oven came in handy as our only source of heat on our way down - while we did not leave it on and go to sleep (wish we did) she sure heated up the trailer in a hurry.
We are of the same mind set - what do we ever use an oven for??? Cooktop imperative, and pretty much else is done on the BBQ.
Microwaves do need shore power as mentioned but the convections can handle the crispy/baking stuff nicely.
With the GT - our solution was - if we knew we were going to be with power we brought along our little silver Microwave - and gave up a bit of the counter on the curb side - our sink is on the street side. But if we know we are not then she stays at home. It travels in the tow vehicle for safe keeping - as stuff was getting bounced around. But now with the new axle soon to be reinstalled - we will probably keep it in the trailer.
Is there one you can borrow and take it along on one of your trips to see how much you would actually use it. - Must say though we did not use it that much!!! when we do have it.
The Overlander's refit will have both - only because there is both available to us - and as we get older I am sure we will appreciate both
Now what would be really cool is a slide out compartment that houses your BBQ with propane connection right there - spots to hang your utensils and when it is closed it just looks like an access door. maybe Peter could rig one of them up on the Overlanader Hybrid - The BBQ could sit on one of those kitchen gadgets for blenders - that hide away in the cupboard and they are spring loaded and lift up for use. With the combo draw slide out and lift up your BBQ could be right at your finger tips with minimal headache
Have fun with your decisions. If we can not get our furnace to work in the GT then we will be considering retrofitting that little baby but keeping the grill for the original look. Wish we kept the casing off our Univolt - could have put it over the Intelli power for the "perception" of purists -
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07-11-2005, 06:52 AM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
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albert,
it is a standard 120volt appliance and plugs into a regular outlet.
however, you will need to run it on the airconditioner circuit with a switch that allows you to run only the ac or the convection oven. not both at the same time!
this is because the ac and the oven run at the same time can draw more than 30 amps.
a double pole switch installed in a kitchen cupboard or other convienent place would work well.
i can provide pics and diagrams if you need them.
john
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07-11-2005, 09:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1970 29' Ambassador
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1957 26' Overlander
Ashland
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Join Date: May 2003
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thats great knowledge.
Quote:
Originally Posted by john hd
albert,
it is a standard 120volt appliance and plugs into a regular outlet.
however, you will need to run it on the airconditioner circuit with a switch that allows you to run only the ac or the convection oven. not both at the same time!
this is because the ac and the oven run at the same time can draw more than 30 amps.
a double pole switch installed in a kitchen cupboard or other convienent place would work well.
i can provide pics and diagrams if you need them.
john
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Thanks John, good tips! I would love to see photos if you dont mind. I have a friend who is an electric whiz, so I can show him who it's supposed to be done. Thanks again.
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07-11-2005, 09:10 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1970 29' Ambassador
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1957 26' Overlander
Ashland
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Join Date: May 2003
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Yes
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Originally Posted by rfield54
Did you really mean "furnace"?
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Im taking the furnace out and using that space for a micro.
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07-11-2005, 10:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2002 19' Bambi
1989 29' Excella
1980 28' International
Avon
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: 1989 29' Excella
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07-11-2005, 11:32 AM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
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majic chef info
albert,
here are some pics of my installation. all factory installed.
john
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07-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GT6921
Now what would be really cool is a slide out compartment that houses your BBQ with propane connection right there - spots to hang your utensils and when it is closed it just looks like an access door. maybe Peter could rig one of them up on the Overlanader Hybrid - The BBQ could sit on one of those kitchen gadgets for blenders - that hide away in the cupboard and they are spring loaded and lift up for use. With the combo draw slide out and lift up your BBQ could be right at your finger tips with minimal headache
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Now THAT is a cool idea!
I left my kitchen as is. A friend convinced me I would be happier with an oven than requiring hookups everywhere I go to use my microwave. The more self contained it is, the better I like it.
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07-11-2005, 11:53 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1970 29' Ambassador
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1957 26' Overlander
Ashland
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Join Date: May 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john hd
albert,
here are some pics of my installation. all factory installed.
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thanks John, this should help alot, but i couldnt see your diagram very well. What I am still wondering is how do I find/connect to the AC circuit? Is it obvious which is which. Do I have to trace that circuit through the coach?
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07-11-2005, 12:53 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
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albert,
you could just remove the interior cover of the a.c. and find the 120v wires there. i imagine the ac/micro switch could go anywhere, even on the ceiling right next to the ac itself. then a run of romex to the micro outlet would be easy if you have most of the trailer apart anyway.
john
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01-15-2006, 07:53 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 Safari SE
Los Alamitos
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Hello all: We have a micro wave convection oven factory installed on our 2006 Safari SE. We have yet to use it and need to test it out. Can I plug the factory provided 30 amp plug (which connects to the outside of the A/S into a regular extension cord (with an adapter) and then plug the 3 prong extension cord into the external 110 power from the home, which outside has a GFI switch?
Thanks for your thoughts. The thought I am having is the longer the extension cord the less power to run the microwave/oven.
Robert and Sherry
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01-15-2006, 08:26 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenHigher
Hello all: We have a micro wave convection oven factory installed on our 2006 Safari SE. We have yet to use it and need to test it out. Can I plug the factory provided 30 amp plug (which connects to the outside of the A/S into a regular extension cord (with an adapter) and then plug the 3 prong extension cord into the external 110 power from the home, which outside has a GFI switch?
Thanks for your thoughts. The thought I am having is the longer the extension cord the less power to run the microwave/oven.
Robert and Sherry
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Robert and Sherry,
You can do that, no problem. The qualifier here is to use a very heavy duty extension cord, not a thin one.
If you are going to do this more often, then it's worth to buy a good construction grade 12G or 10G extension cord. It's not that you need the amperage that this gauge can carry, but your voltage drop over the length of the cord will be minimized.
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01-15-2006, 08:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 31' Sovereign
Broken Arrow
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Oven out micro in
I pulled the oven. Like this set up better but we are on shore power 95% of time.
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01-15-2006, 09:18 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 Safari SE
Los Alamitos
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Thanks UWE: I will test it out today, and I do have a heavy duty extension cord.
Robert and Sherry
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01-15-2006, 09:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1993 25' Excella
Full Time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garry
I pulled the oven. Like this set up better but we are on shore power 95% of time.
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Beautiful setup! Love the mirrored door for hiding the appliances when they are not being used.
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New England Unit
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01-15-2006, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1993 25' Excella
Full Time
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Our need is just a bit different
I want to replace our built in microwave with a convection/microwave combo unit to use in addition to our propane oven. I rarely use the microwave (except to store potato chips and bread in) and could really use a second oven at times, mostly when we attend rallies.
Once we get "The Tube" from back GSM Vehicles Leon will be measuring up the microwave opening and if all goes as planned we'll have the convection/micro in for the start of this years camping season.
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New England Unit
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