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Old 06-26-2003, 06:37 PM   #15
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A small microwave like ours, with 1000 watts of cooking power, draws 1500W when the magnetron is on. On the "high" power setting, that's about 2/3 of the cooking time, hence the 1000W rating. On "medium" it still draws 1500W, but for maybe 1/3 the cooking time.

1500W provided by an inverter draws 150 amps from the batteries. That's the current a starter motor of a small car draws, and if you've ever had a car that wouldn't start, you know the battery charge life is on the order of minutes instead of hours at this heavy of a discharge.

I'll spare you the math, but that microwave powered by an inverter will use nearly 2% of the usable capacity of a pair of T-105 golf cart batteries (or equivalent pair of 12V batteries) for every minute of operation. It will REALLY eat up a single 12V battery, not to mention possibly overheat it.

Making heat requires a LOT of energy, and batteries store very little compared to that contained in very little propane or gasoline. And even at that, it gives one Honda EU2000 generator a good, hard workout.
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:49 PM   #16
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i would highly reccomend a convection/microwave oven.

i have a magic chef unit that came with my trailer from the factory.

very nice, you can even run both features at once. it is a relatively small unit.

you can bake with it just fine. potatoes, pizzas and muffins etc.

saves alot of space.

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Old 06-26-2003, 06:53 PM   #17
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We have installed a microwave convection oven in our MH, we enjoy it, but it needs shore power.

I have baked muffins and even a birthday cake in it.
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:15 PM   #18
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And that's full shore power... not rally power, where you're sharing one circuit with other trailers.
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That is correct, no muffins on rally power! Of course at a rally, they usally provide muffins!
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Old 06-27-2003, 12:51 AM   #20
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So once again I'm coming to the conclusion that this little camper has basically everything you need to be a happy camper, and that's why no one has made any real changes to it in 35 years! Guess I'd better leave it just like it is. Maybe I'll even learn to make muffins :-)
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Im doing the same

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steph

i would highly reccomend a convection/microwave oven.

i have a magic chef unit that came with my trailer from the factory.

very nice, you can even run both features at once. it is a relatively small unit.

you can bake with it just fine. potatoes, pizzas and muffins etc.

saves alot of space.

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Hi John, On this microwave issue. I am replacing the furnace with a Micro/convection oven. Does it need to wire directly to 120, or does it have to go through the invertor? I read that it can hurt the invertor due to the heat. Can you advise on how to wire the micro ? thanks!!
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I am replacing the furnace with a Micro/convection oven.

Did you really mean "furnace"?
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Always a dilema when you want to make changes eh Stephanie.

Funny a furnace should be mentioned at the end - our oven came in handy as our only source of heat on our way down - while we did not leave it on and go to sleep (wish we did) she sure heated up the trailer in a hurry.

We are of the same mind set - what do we ever use an oven for??? Cooktop imperative, and pretty much else is done on the BBQ.

Microwaves do need shore power as mentioned but the convections can handle the crispy/baking stuff nicely.

With the GT - our solution was - if we knew we were going to be with power we brought along our little silver Microwave - and gave up a bit of the counter on the curb side - our sink is on the street side. But if we know we are not then she stays at home. It travels in the tow vehicle for safe keeping - as stuff was getting bounced around. But now with the new axle soon to be reinstalled - we will probably keep it in the trailer.

Is there one you can borrow and take it along on one of your trips to see how much you would actually use it. - Must say though we did not use it that much!!! when we do have it.

The Overlander's refit will have both - only because there is both available to us - and as we get older I am sure we will appreciate both

Now what would be really cool is a slide out compartment that houses your BBQ with propane connection right there - spots to hang your utensils and when it is closed it just looks like an access door. maybe Peter could rig one of them up on the Overlanader Hybrid - The BBQ could sit on one of those kitchen gadgets for blenders - that hide away in the cupboard and they are spring loaded and lift up for use. With the combo draw slide out and lift up your BBQ could be right at your finger tips with minimal headache

Have fun with your decisions. If we can not get our furnace to work in the GT then we will be considering retrofitting that little baby but keeping the grill for the original look. Wish we kept the casing off our Univolt - could have put it over the Intelli power for the "perception" of purists -
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albert,

it is a standard 120volt appliance and plugs into a regular outlet.

however, you will need to run it on the airconditioner circuit with a switch that allows you to run only the ac or the convection oven. not both at the same time!

this is because the ac and the oven run at the same time can draw more than 30 amps.

a double pole switch installed in a kitchen cupboard or other convienent place would work well.

i can provide pics and diagrams if you need them.

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thats great knowledge.

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it is a standard 120volt appliance and plugs into a regular outlet.

however, you will need to run it on the airconditioner circuit with a switch that allows you to run only the ac or the convection oven. not both at the same time!

this is because the ac and the oven run at the same time can draw more than 30 amps.

a double pole switch installed in a kitchen cupboard or other convienent place would work well.

i can provide pics and diagrams if you need them.

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Thanks John, good tips! I would love to see photos if you dont mind. I have a friend who is an electric whiz, so I can show him who it's supposed to be done. Thanks again.
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Did you really mean "furnace"?
Im taking the furnace out and using that space for a micro.
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here are some pics of my installation. all factory installed.

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