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Old 03-05-2014, 06:30 AM   #15
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If you get your gas from an underground pipe, no, it's not the same. Liquefied Petroleum Gas (bottled gas) is mostly propane and heavier than air. Compressed Natural Gas (piped gas) is mostly butane and lighter than air.

Understood. The tops that I looked at online are convertible either on their own or with a kit to LPG or NG. From propane.pro site:
One cubic foot (ft3) of natural gas contains 1,030 BTUs and one cubic foot of propane gas contains 2,516 BTUs, giving propane about twice the energy content of natural gas.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:36 AM   #16
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The old stuff is worth fixing/refurbishing in my opinion. There is no comparison in the build quality between a new Magic Chef RV cooktop and the original one you have. Most of the new RV stuff is cheap. Cheap stuff doesn't last. Now if you are talking about a new Dickinson stove or cook top, that is a different story. They are the best quality.

Clean it up. Remove the rust as best you can. Try soaking it is vinegar for a few days, then, as Becky stated, polish it up with fine steel wool or fine Scotchbrite pads. If it still doesn't look as good as you'd like, send the parts off to be chrome plated. Plating is expensive, but you will have a high quality, beautiful, original 4 burner cook top when you are done. It will last indefinitely with proper care.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:05 AM   #17
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clean, paint, and polish

I have the same unit in my 69. If everything works clean, polish and paint. I used High temp paint on the surface under the burner tubes. Polished the cover. The cover is not perfect but after camping, and useing it for 2 years no new rust. This stove seems well made and works better then any I had in my other trailers. Mostly Domatics. Good luck on whatever you decide. I like my Magic Chef.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:57 AM   #18
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Well, I've posted a WTB ad to see if I can scare up a similar cooktop in better condition and will see about getting the folding top and or the plate that holds the grates either powder or ceramic coated. Not really sure if the powder coating will hold up to the temp, I would think the ceramic would. Just an issue of the cost then. Will see where this goes.
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Old 03-05-2014, 03:05 PM   #19
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powder-coat the visible parts?

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Well, I've posted a WTB ad to see if I can scare up a similar cooktop in better condition and will see about getting the folding top and or the plate that holds the grates either powder or ceramic coated. Not really sure if the powder coating will hold up to the temp, I would think the ceramic would. Just an issue of the cost then. Will see where this goes.
If you get two, let me know

I was wondering about powder-coating it, too. That stuff is tough and will withstand heat, right? Anybody have any thoughts on that?

Also, I think the gas 'path' in mine needs looked at. I wonder if a rebuild kit for the burners exists (still?), and I have a sneaking suspicion that the on/off valve has a very slow leak.

Funny the thoughts that go through your mind during a long, hard-frozen winter!
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Where did you find that Dickinson?
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:47 PM   #21
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If you get two, let me know

I was wondering about powder-coating it, too. That stuff is tough and will withstand heat, right? Anybody have any thoughts on that?

Also, I think the gas 'path' in mine needs looked at. I wonder if a rebuild kit for the burners exists (still?), and I have a sneaking suspicion that the on/off valve has a very slow leak.

Funny the thoughts that go through your mind during a long, hard-frozen winter!
I got a quote back on powdercoating the folding top, 65 bucks. He says its good to 400 degrees. I also asked about ceramic coating, that was double the price at 130. But that would take the heat, they use it on exhaust manifolds. So I'm thinking about it. I also have an ad out on the classifieds and got one response back about a possible donor cooktop in whole or parts. I'm still weighing the options, I could try a spray paint, but I just dont know how well it would hold up to the standard abuse that these tops endure.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:48 AM   #22
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Hi Bob, I have a stove top I just sent out to be polished, they sent it back, too much rust. Can I ask who is the powder coat/ceramic place you talked too. I would like to check them out. John
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I thought of powder coating and I think if it is good to 400F you will be ok even on the burner surround. The part that gets really hot is the grill/pot supports. I would go with a white gloss. I assume that price includes sand blasting the parts prior to painting? The powder coat does not have solvents in it. It is baked on in an oven.

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I got a quote back on powdercoating the folding top, 65 bucks. He says its good to 400 degrees. I also asked about ceramic coating, that was double the price at 130. But that would take the heat, they use it on exhaust manifolds. So I'm thinking about it. I also have an ad out on the classifieds and got one response back about a possible donor cooktop in whole or parts. I'm still weighing the options, I could try a spray paint, but I just dont know how well it would hold up to the standard abuse that these tops endure.
I agree that a resistance up to 400°F should do the trick. I mean, unless you are some kind of super chef that is going to have the stove on a lot. We don't, but it needs to look nice. The previous owner took a can of cheap spray paint to everything that was rusty before he sold, and that pain made a mess of several things, including the stove.

$65 sounds like a great deal. There are several things to do on mine: the folding top (rusty brushed SS, both sides need done, but I think that may not matter), the piece that covers the inside of the stove and has holes for the burners, and the box it all sits in.

One of the places that does that here in Ottawa had a film of the process up on their site for a while, and the first step was a dip in a bath to get all the crap off all the metal. IIRC they then dipped it in another bath that gave the surface a "tooth" that the powder could adhere to, then a spray and bake process.

I would like a pale gray or silver-type look to it, glossy. I am hoping that colour is popular enough to be able to gang up with another job that is already going through using that colour. The oven is pretty big, so in comparison, the bits I need done are insignificant.

But: I won't other with any of that until I can get the stove in good, safe working order. It leaks gas if the flame is off but the main valve is on; not good. One or two burners have a 'dicey' flame. Has anyone dealt with that work? Looking for advice, and what to do...

For example how do you treat the black grilles that the pots and pans sit on?
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Where did you find that Dickinson?

for Belegedhel,

here is the link.
Marine Stoves, Cooktops, Ovens and Ranges

or try Discount Marine and Boat Supplies - Inflatable Sales - Defender


I do like the stove tops that aquinob posted. Its got us thinking for sure.

We looked into getting ours redone locally a few years back and by the time we went to do it, the company went out of business.

You hate to get rid of reliable stove, especially that has been around for 35 years when it still works, but is just worn out or weathered.

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Have any of you tried Oxalyic acid to remove the rust? Works like a charm without any of the sanding marks.

Read about it here ( or google it!)

Oxalic Acid. Removing rust from Chrome the very best way! - VintageBMX.com

There are places that reporcelain the ovens, they'll even do your grates but its big bucks!
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Have any of you tried Oxalyic acid to remove the rust? Works like a charm without any of the sanding marks.

Read about it here ( or google it!)

Oxalic Acid. Removing rust from Chrome the very best way! - VintageBMX.com

There are places that reporcelain the ovens, they'll even do your grates but its big bucks!
OK so, I suggested vinegar (acetic acid) and Shelly suggested oxalic acid. Maybe we are getting somewhere.
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In my last trailer (72 Overlander) my 4 burner unit looked worse than the OP's cooktop. I took it to a local powdercoater, had it sandblasted and coated. The grates were done in the (I forget the actual term) extra high heat coating. I lived in my trailer for 2 years and used it every day. Never had a problem with it peeling or flaking off. It looked brand new until the day I sold that trailer, 6 years later.
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