Magic Chef Oven

danesh · 12-07-2003, 10:48 PM

Our 85 Sovereign has a Magic Chef oven. I cannot light the oven. This AS has been inactive for three years. Other gas appliances (heater, water heater, top burners) all work. I can light-up the pilot, but the main oven burner does not work. Is ther anything I can do short of taking it to a RV dealer. The manuals that came with it talks about a shutoff valve. Where is this valve?
Any comments?
Thanks

Inland RV Center, In · 12-08-2003, 11:38 AM

What is the model number?

Andy

danesh · 12-08-2003, 03:09 PM

I do not have the #. The numbers under the burners are all gone. It has 4 burners at the top with an oven under. The dimensions for the whole unit are: 20"Dx 18"Hx 21"W. I has a white color.
Thanks again Andy for showing interest.
Cheers

danesh · 12-09-2003, 10:10 PM

Dear Andy:
I did find the model no. It is BT18LA-4.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Creampuff · 12-09-2003, 10:53 PM

If it's anything like mine (older), there is a slotted shutoff for the pilot that is under the burner surface near the front left burner. Look for a small pipe that branches off towards the rear, off the main gas suppy that runs along the front containing the burner and oven control controls .The shutoff is wherever that tube branches off going to the oven.

53flyingcloud · 12-10-2003, 02:21 AM

danesh

Not to take anything away from Andy, but if it's parts you're looking for:

Try this site: Be aware that some parts are NLA and, Andy may still be your best source..
Magic Chef

ciao

Inland RV Center, In · 12-10-2003, 09:41 AM

Danesh.

Parts are still available for that model.

Pull the thermostat knob off. On the left side of the themostat is an adjustment for the secondary pilot. On the right side, there is an adjustment for the pilot.

If that doesn't solve the problem, then you will need a thermostat or a mercury valve. You will have to decide which one, if that's the case.

Since those parts are in the special ordered category, they are not returnable usually from anyone.

Andy

danesh · 12-10-2003, 10:30 AM

Friends:
Is there anyway to test which part is the bad one? The thermostat or the safty valve. If I replace both, it would cost almost as much as a new oven. Replacing one part I could live with, but two??!!
Thanks for your replies.
Cheers

alan · 12-10-2003, 02:23 PM

I too am interested in how to diagnose which of the two items could be the culprit. I have a 85 Sovereign with exactly the same problem.

Inland RV Center, In · 12-10-2003, 04:49 PM

The thermostats fail more than the mercury valve.

Unfortunately, you must replace one or the other and that answers the question.

Also there are numbers on both of those parts. According to Magic Chef, different thermostats and mercury valves were used in the same models of stoves, ovens and ranges.

Therefore it is essential that all the numbers from the thermostat or mercury valve be available.

Andy

Sue&Von · 12-11-2003, 09:30 AM

Quote:

posted by danesh
The thermostat or the safty valve. If I replace both, it would cost almost as much as a new oven. Replacing one part I could live with, but two??!!
Cheers

I am always amazed on this forum why posters seem to be shy about posting prices of things.
Is there some stupid rule or taboo about this or some foolishly percieved correctness??

We're all in this together and I would bet that costs are important to most of us.

It is obvious that Denesh has gotten prices on a new oven, a mercury switch and a thermostat. So what's the secret?

BTW is a mercury valve similar to a thermo-couple?

thanks
S&V

thenewkid64 · 12-11-2003, 10:14 AM

Sue & Von,

Keep in mind that human nature is to speak out about the good deals we have gotten. Mediocre or bad ones are rarely mentioned, so the pricing info may be a bit flawed.

There is not really a taboo regarding posting prices for stuff, but there are policies prohibiting retailers who are members from doing so.

The main issue is if I buy a part for $100.00, and post that fact, and you find it for $60.00 and also post, then it becomes a situation where I may feel like I got shafted, or the parts may not even be close to the same thing. It also starts to be a contest of who can get it for the least. Then everyone feels bad except for the lowest price buyer. Now if another member goes to buy what they perceive is the same thing they may feel like they are getting taken advantage of when they go to a vendor and find it priced at $150.00.

So while we are a public forum it seems to be an issue where a PM is a better way to do this.

Another issue is that not all widgets cost the same amount of money in the US. Some of what we all make our buying decisions is perceived value. I may be willing to pay more for something because I need it within a short time frame, vs being able to wait a month or two for it and saving 10-15%. Think new furnace in December.

As this site is a repository for information, if I post a price today someone may need that item in a year and the price I posed is not longer available from anyone as the item has been changed or improved. That then adds to the possible feelings of getting shafted by a vendor due to lack of reference.

I do not think anyone has a problem telling you what they paid for a part on a one on one basis (PM), I know I don't mind when someone asks where I got it and how much was it.

Sue&Von · 12-11-2003, 10:48 AM

Brett with all due respect I think you're all wet on this one.

I assume we are all adults. We should not be sensitive little twerps who get our feelings hurt cause someone pays less for a widget.
Only the dim-witted-est would think that prices do not change or vary depending on region, circumstance, or supply and demand.

Great chunks of bandwidth are devoured on this forum discussing silly and innane topics which add nothing to the reality of Airstreaming. That's not for me to control if the owner likes it that way, but it sure makes searching a task. It is for that reason that I like to cut to the chase in my posts, and mentioning prices is part of that style.
Sure there will be the liars who understate or overstate things, but again as an adult I have learned how to factor such into life's lessons.

As for PM'ing . I think that is bad advice.
As I said "we're all in this together" and should all have the opportunity to share in each others knowledge and generate thought from each others questions.
PM's are fine for personal info such as phone numbers and the such, but it does very few any good to PM general info that most all could use.

In many areas I think this forum is over-regulated and too timid.
I do think it should be kept strictly civil (which sometimes it is not),but stifeling the exchange of info for the sake of not hurting the feelings of someone with "buyer's remorse" is rediculous IMHO.

S&V

thenewkid64 · 12-11-2003, 11:25 AM

S&V,

I understand and can appreciate your points. We do not have ANY policies regarding posting of prices by non-retail members. If someone wants to post that they paid X for Y they can. Some will some won't.

If you get a price and want to post it great, I was just trying to explain some of the reasoning as to why many members do not post prices. I am not one to do so very often, I normally post a general number, but that is because I do not trust my own memory on what I have sometimes paid for an item.