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Old 01-05-2014, 03:32 PM   #1
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Induction Cooktop

In my never ending quest for making SilverLeaf cutting edge, I have bought a portable induction cooktop. Upside is it is extremely fast and generates zero heat. The heat comes from the pan and what you are cooking. Downside is it'll pull 1800 Watts, so when I use it this'll max out my already puny (IMHO) electrical system. Oh, I had to buy new cookware. If a magnet won't stick to the bottom of your pot, induction won't work. I was so impressed with the performance of this little panel (looks like a square hot plate, and cost under $150), that I just replaced my home cooktop with a new JennAir induction unit. Pricey, more than $2,000, plus new cookware. Costco has a great set of stainless steel with iron cores. I love induction....incredibly fast, and absolutely precise temperature. When you change cooking temp it happens INSTANTLY. No carryover heat like gas or radiant. Stay tuned for updates!
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Old 01-05-2014, 03:43 PM   #2
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Barry, you and Silverleaf could be a 1 man seminar at Alumalina this March. About all you are missing is one of those self parking devices like some of the new cars have. Just pull up beside the campsite, hit a button, bam, it backs in for you.

Hmmm......, are you already secretly working on one??

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Old 01-05-2014, 03:48 PM   #3
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I've had one in my Airstream for 7 years now! best thing....it does not heat up the trailer. was dry camping once and had to use the gas, felt like a bonfire!, there is a two burner available from Berhoff, but they both share the 1800 watts...but just having one burner, with the convection microwave seems to take care of 90% of cooking needs.....
oh, and I got a Kenmore Elite 30in Induction cooktop for the house at Sears outlet for 700!!
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Great to hear that someone else is thinking along the same lines for efficiency and heat reduction. The home unit has a setting for "melting" ... and using it was the first time I have ever melted two squares of unsweetened chocolate perfectly! Will do a tour at Alumalina in March, John!
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:20 PM   #5
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Looks like a nifty new toy, Barry.

We bought a new cooktop, too......a butane burner for cooking outside.

See you in March.


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16 Amp stove on 14 GA wire...

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In my never ending quest for making SilverLeaf cutting edge, I have bought a portable induction cooktop. Upside is it is extremely fast and generates zero heat. The heat comes from the pan and what you are cooking. Downside is it'll pull 1800 Watts, so when I use it this'll max out my already puny (IMHO) electrical system. Oh, I had to buy new cookware. If a magnet won't stick to the bottom of your pot, induction won't work. I was so impressed with the performance of this little panel (looks like a square hot plate, and cost under $150), that I just replaced my home cooktop with a new JennAir induction unit. Pricey, more than $2,000, plus new cookware. Costco has a great set of stainless steel with iron cores. I love induction....incredibly fast, and absolutely precise temperature. When you change cooking temp it happens INSTANTLY. No carryover heat like gas or radiant. Stay tuned for updates!
1800 watss @ 110V AC = 16+ amps

I have never see anything more than 14/3 wiring in an Airstream which is not capable of handling a 16 amp load safely.

So, you have rewired your trailer with 12/3 wire to support the added load that this unit will put on the electrical wire. That's good because if you have not, you will be melting wires when you have the stove operating at full capacity and that will, in all probability, result in a very nice fire.

IF on the other hand, you have not rewired the trailer to accommodate the load that this cook top will put on the electrical wiring you will always be in the trailer so that you can ensure that no one will make the mistake of operating the stove at its full capability so that they will not inadvertently put themselves and anyone in the immediate vicinity of your unit in what could well be a situation that results in someone being very badly injured, or worse, death.

Jim, who wonders why you would not mention an upgrade to your electrical system if you are aware of this....
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Gosh, I've seen multiple RVers mention using portable induction cooktops. Seems to be a lack of totally catastrophic fires that wipe out everyone in the trailer and the adjacent cute duck sanctuary/houseful of nuns.

I'm also a fan of induction, having had it at home for six years now. I don't use one in the trailer because we only have electric 1 out of 10 times we camp.

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We use ours on the outside outlet. No problem yet. Should I be concerned about the trailer wiring?
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My breakers are 20 amp and at least some (if not all) of the outlets are wired with 12 gauge wire. So my guess is a newer trailer is ok.
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I'd point out that it's rare to see voltage as low as 110v in the US. I hear that it happens at some campgrounds especially in the summer when everyone is running their AC, and I guess it could also be a problem in winter when everyone it running their heat pumps on "free" electricity to save propane. If memory serves, the lowest voltage I've seen, measured at the outlet in the galley with a Fluke, is about 116v with the AC running, which would represent about 15.5 amps draw for the induction cooktop running full tilt. Of course, that voltage was higher before I turned my AC on, and I couldn't run both on my 30A service (or at least I wouldn't try...)
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Induction hobs

I have been using a Berghoff induction hob in my trailer for about 7 years and I have never seen it draw more than 10 amps (1600 watt rating on the label). I suspect that the makers label for the absolute worst case including manufacturing tolerance. At any rate the circuit barker should trip long before and wires get hot enough to start a fire. If you are worried about it get a KIll-o-watt meter (Camping World sells them) and check what your actual power usage is. Induction is the most energy efficient way to cook in most cases. And so it is very popular in countries where energy is expensive.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:36 PM   #12
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We have a Nu-Wave Induction cooktop and love it! I usually use it outside plugged into an extension cord that is directly plugged into the electric post at the campground. I have used it inside too without problem, but no other electric items in use at the same time. I bought a set of stackable cook pans that have removable handles which can double as storage containers in the fridge. I also use my cast iron skillet on it and place a paper towel under the pan to prevent the iron skillet from marring the cooktop. It is my favorite kitchen tool!
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We are working on 1961 Overlander that will the electrical upgrade to 50amp amd 12/2 w/grnd wiring. Why? Because my wife wants the in duction cooktop AND air conditioning. Can you believe it? The nerve of that woman.
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We have a Nu-Wave Induction cooktop and love it! I usually use it outside plugged into an extension cord that is directly plugged into the electric post at the campground. I have used it inside too without problem, but no other electric items in use at the same time. I bought a set of stackable cook pans that have removable handles which can double as storage containers in the fridge. I also use my cast iron skillet on it and place a paper towel under the pan to prevent the iron skillet from marring the cooktop. It is my favorite kitchen tool!
I also have the Nu-Wave(s) and they are tougher than I realized. I got the first two in February - gave one away, and the second one went through my wreck this summer. It made funny noises after the wreck, so I ordered another set. After they came in, I took the back off of the first one and found a loose piece of plastic that had gotten into the fan somehow. I removed the jammed piece and now the original works fine again. So I have spares. If I'm ever at a pot luck using one or more of these, I'll make sure to use a very heavy duty extension cord directly from the pole though I've had no problems using mine indoors. I can't believe these draw 1800 amps if they're not going full blast. These are brilliant for keeping fondue, chocolate, or queso just warm.

I did pop a breaker when I had the heat pump and the induction burner working, then without thinking tried to use the microwave. It popped on the inside... and happened within a second or two of starting the microwave. The NuWave wire wasn't warm, nor was the outlet.

I'll be watching this thread though. I surely don't want to burn up the new rig.

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